Ventura Issues
General
- If a Save panel opens showing the most recently used folder, clicking Save will instead save to the Documents folder unless I specifically navigate to the already displayed folder manually.
- Throughout Finder, apps, and the Dock, documents are shown with generic icons.
- Apple Watch login now fails most of the time for me. [Even after resetting it.]
- Various operations, such as
rsyncover SSH, sometimes get really slow, perhaps related to high CPU use insecd.
Finder
- Revealing files in Finder (either from the title bar menu or a command in another app) sometimes doesn’t work, revealing an ancestor folder instead of the actual file, or sometimes doing nothing at all.
- Finder sometimes loses all of its sidebar items.
- Finder sometimes forgets which sidebar sections are expanded.
- Sometimes mounted drives disappear from the Computer view, even though they are still mounted and in use.
- Finder windows sometimes don’t get focus when I click on them, even though Finder does become the frontmost app.
- Finder sometimes shows very stale folder contents, e.g. showing files in their previous folder long after they’ve been moved. Or not showing new files long after they’ve finished being saved. Or showing Safari download progress files long after the download has completed.
- Other times the entire contents of a folder disappear for 30 seconds or so, making it look like my files have been deleted even though they were not actually touched.
- Renaming the boot volume does not change it throughout the system (startup manager, etc.).
- Files that I add to iCloud Drive on my phone sometimes take many hours to show up on my Mac, even though both devices are on Wi-Fi and the files show up on my iPad right away.
- Mail now loses the mailbox selection when you start a search, instead changing the selection to All Mailboxes, which is rarely the scope that I want.
- Mail sometimes continues to show the × button in the search field when no search is in effect.
- Arrow-keying through messages in Mail is slower, seemingly because secondary metadata is now lazily fetched from the database
- Initially loading a mailbox when clicking on it is slower, seemingly because the sorting is now done in-memory rather than using a database index.
- When composing a message, Mail sometimes mixes in rich text (e.g. different pasted fonts) when it’s in plain text mode.
- Indentation is stripped from text when pasting.
- Replying to a message in plain text mode sometimes inserts raw CSS code at the top of the quoted text.
- Mail sort indicators still don’t match the direction (or sometimes even the column) that it’s actually sorting by.
- The Mail rule editor sheet still has layout glitches when you add lots of criteria and can take over a minute to open.
- Mail still sometimes freezes for several seconds when switching to it or doesn’t display the selected message (showing No Message Selected) until I click on another one and then back, or sometimes until I wait a minute or so.
- Mail sometimes hangs when trying to access the content of a message via AppleScript.
Storage
- External drives still take minutes to mount or sometimes never mount automatically. Sometimes I can manually mount them from Disk Utility. Other times I need to reboot or disconnect other drives first.
- While a drive is in the process of mounting, various other apps beachball when trying to open or save a file (even if on the internal SSD that’s already mounted).
- After mounting, a drive may show up in Finder twice.
- Finder often shows a drive as ejected before it is actually unmounted, so that if I turn it off or disconnect it when the icon disappears I get a Disk Not Ejected Properly notification about unexpectedly disconnecting the drive.
- Finder often shows a drive as still mounted even after I’ve ejected it and it’s spun down and gone from /Volumes.
- Sometimes encrypted drives prompt for the passphrase even though it’s in the keychain (a longstanding issue across several macOS releases).
- Regularly connected drives don’t always mount at login before restoring apps, so apps can’t restore state that depends on those drives.
- Apps hang for long periods of time when saving a file while it waits on Spotlight.
- My spinning Time Machine drives are active all day compacting the Spotlight index, even after resetting it to make sure it wasn’t damaged. There remains no way to turn off indexing of APFS Time Machine drives.
System Settings
- System Settings doesn’t show available software updates, even though they show up with
softwareupdate --list. [Update (2023-02-20): This happened again updating to macOS 13.2.1. I had to install usingsoftwareupdate -i -r -Rbecause without the-Reven the command-line tool would get stuck and not proceed with the installation.] - System Settings shows Software Update Available in the sidebar when there’s no update if there’s an error contacting the update server.
- Sometimes all the System Settings panes are blank.
- Sometimes searching in System Settings doesn’t show any search results; it just continues showing the full list of panes.
- I get notifications for new login items that haven’t actually changed. For example, checking a box in app A that adds a login item sometimes triggers a notification for app B (which hasn’t changed) and no notification for app A. I also get notifications for app B when deleting the plist file for app A. Sometimes I even get multiple notifications for app B (the wrong app) all at once.
- The information in Login Items ‣ Allow in Background is inconsistent and unreliable. Sometimes, using AssociatedBundleIdentifiers works to display the name of the app instead of the name on the signing certificate; sometimes it doesn’t; and sometimes it reverts to (part of) the name of the plist file even though nothing has changed. Some items change back and forth from verified to from an unidentified developer seemingly for no reason.
Other
- Safari sometimes gets really slow or stops responding entirely, so that some pages are only fully scrollable if I disable JavaScript.
- QuickTime Player videos that I pause sometimes can’t be resumed until I quit and relaunch the app.
- Git Tower no longer remembers the width of the file list pane in the Working Copy view.
See also: Fixes and flaws in Ventura 13.0.
Previously:
- Disabling AWDL to Work Around Ventura Wi-Fi Issues
- macOS 13.1
- Long App Hangs Due to Spotlight
- Blank File Icons in Ventura
- Little Annoyances in macOS 12.0.1
- Ventura Notifies User of New Login Items
- System Settings
- WWDC 2022 Wish Lists
- Remaining Issues in Big Sur
- Remaining Issues New in Catalina
- You Can’t Turn Off Spotlight on Your Time Machine Backup
Update (2022-12-28): See also: Hacker News.
Update (2022-12-29): Two other Mail issues I’m seeing:
- The View ‣ Highlight Conversations command doesn’t work.
- Messages sometimes lose their colors when moved between IMAP mailboxes.
See also: Rui Carmo.
Update (2022-12-30): Adam Overholtzer:
Third-party widgets don’t load (
killall NotificationCenterwill fix)
I’m more surprised by the nature of many of these issues, by how ridiculous they are compared with the sheer age and supposed maturity of a 20+ year-old operating system.
I’ve also heard from a consultant who says he’s seen three isolated cases where Ventura turned on FileVault by itself, without permission or offering a recovery key.
Update (2023-01-05): See also: Reddit and Reynard Jenning.
Update (2023-01-12): Collin Donnell:
Has anyone else been getting this macOS bug where the Apple ID pane in System Settings is blank or entirely unresponsive and there is a “Daemon connection invalidated!” message in Console many times a second?
See also: Overclockers.
Update (2023-01-18): Jesse Squires:
Generally, the built-in Mac Catalyst apps continue to be a major annoyance and extremely cumbersome to use. They do not behave like native AppKit apps and omit very basic features and functionality that typical users expect.
[…]
My biggest complaint is the new System Settings (née System Preferences) redesign, which is absolutely terrible. It is so slow and glitchy.
