Thursday, November 5, 2026

Switch to Safari

Chance Miller (Hacker News):

Apple is kicking off a new campaign today to promote Safari’s benefits over Chrome. With a new “Switch to Safari” page on its website and a pair of new YouTube videos, Apple wants everyone to know Safari is “a more powerful and private browser than Chrome.”

Apple (Hacker News):

Safari offers up to 5 hours more video streaming on your Mac compared with Chrome.

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Faster page loads on frequently visited sites when browsing on Mac.

Lex Friedman:

Apple then uses some iffy animations to promote its claims that “Safari cuts the clutter while Chrome piles it on”. (I don’t think this one’s fair. Chrome doesn’t add extra crap to websites, in my experience.)

I’m fine with Apple’s claim that “Safari shields you while Chrome reveals you,” though internal rhyme is never my favorite.

Then the next one says “Safari blazes; Chrome cruises.” I don’t think those are opposites, and the rabbit with a snail shell is a weird image to me. And even Apple’s explainer text — “Safari is up to 35% faster than Chrome when loading frequently visited sites on Mac” — feels heavily caveated.

There are so many things about this page that seem weird to me.

I still use Safari because I prefer its interface. But I wish I could find something better so I could switch away from Safari:

Anonymous:

I’d be more supportive of this if Apple would actually port Safari to Windows again, or even make new ports to Android and Linux! As is, however, it sort of feels kinda desperate. Chrome is mentioned so many times on that page, which doesn’t look bad until one compares it to their other currently-running campaigns like Mac does that. (Switch to Mac) where Windows is only mentioned a couple times (PC gets twice that amount), or even Switch to iPhone where Android is only mentioned once!

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Safari doesn't support Web MIDI either, which is essential these days if you do any music production whatsoever. Many instruments and MIDI controllers update firmware and adjust settings via Web MIDI now.

It's very weird that Apple fancies itself the company for creators but ignores standards like this.


> I still run into non-obscure pages that don’t work in Safari but do work in both Chrome and Firefox.

That's the #1 reason why Safari is LESS powerful than Chrome.

Personally, I also hate the lock button having been moved out of the search bar. Having to go to Safari > Connection Security Details… is both inconvenient and wrong from a UI/UX point of view (it's a piece of information specific to the visited site, not to the application).


Safari is unbearable to use if I have any of the tracking protection features enabled. It just hangs and hangs until, like you, I just have to quit the whole program. When I disable those, it works fine, but obviously that isn’t ideal either.


Oh, and the garbage collection is unreal. On two separate occasions in the last three years I have had to go into my library > containers folder and clear out a mountain of files left behind in TabSnapshots or a tmp folder. Literal millions of files (9 million in one case, 7 million recently). If you have a slow spotlight/disk backup or just wonder where 70+GB of disk space off and disappeared to, I recommend looking there first.


@billyok I wish that helped for me, but I’ve been running without tracking protection for quite a while (because it caused other problems).


I appreciate how when switching to a different tab group, Safari PRETENDS it reloads every page, the Reloading icon in the Address field displays as an "X"… and takes some time, as though it actually is reloading the webpage (which I may want, or may not)… but then doesn't actually reload the page. So then I have to manually reload the page AGAIN. Super time efficient. Especially if you have half a dozen tabs or more in the group that need refreshed. And if you hit the "X", to stop the reload, it becomes a 50/50 whether Safari will hose the page load entirely, causing me to have to completely close that tab and make a new one for that content.

Oh… and my FAVORITE Safari feature: if you click a link somewhere—mail, document, whatever—Safari helpfully chooses, ENTIRELY RANDOMLY, seemingly, to open that new page in a tab in SOME open window… or… maybe a MINIMIZED window… or… maybe over top of a tab that's already displaying other content… or in an entirely different Space (and maybe over loaded content there, or a Private Window). RANDOMLY! I really do appreciate the Safari devs keeping me on my toes! I have left feedback FOR YEARS that Safari should NOT do this, should open remote links in a new Window if there is no non-minimized window in the current Space, ever since I watched someone doing a presentation in front of a large group of people click a link in an email that promptly un-mininimized a Safari window that had VERY NSFW content in it, displaying that for nearly a full uncomfortable second on the projector screen, until Safari started loading the linked page. (No, was not me, thankfully. Was a vendor. Was fun!) ((And no, I don't know that Chrome or Edge is better here, on Mac or Windows… but Safari SHOULD NOT DO THIS.))


One of my favorites is how every link click or search on Amazon eats more and more memory on my MacBook Air, and causes the site to run slower and slower, until I finally have to close the tab and open the site again in a new tab. When I'm doing lots of product searching, I may have to close and reopen 5 or 6 times. Ridiculous.

I've also seen the same bunk @BillyOK mentions with temp Safari data eating up 60 or 70 GB of drive space. Lots of fun when your internal drive is 256 GB.

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