Friday, September 26, 2025

Tahoe’s Mac App Store

Mario Guzmán:

All throughout the beta of #macOSTahoe, the Mac App Store app doesn’t show me updates. I have to use Latest.app to update my Mac App Store purchases. I was hope it would only be a beta issue but it seems to affect the RC as well. Anyone else seeing this?

And no, Command + R or the Reload menu item doesn’t help or work either.

I’ve also tried rebooting and signing out/in Mac App Store.

John Siracusa:

Love to work to get all my apps updated for Tahoe only to have Apple to break the Mac App Store so badly in Tahoe that people can’t update or install my apps.

Steve Troughton-Smith:

It’s becoming apparent that macOS Tahoe has a number of issues that completely break the Mac App Store for installing and updating apps, some of which that can only be fixed by booting to Recovery mode and using the command line 😅 That is an extraordinary state to launch an OS in.

Marvin U.:

I reported it multiple times via feedback but no response from them. It only shows me updates if I search for the app and go to the apps store page. The update tab is always empty and refreshing it doesn’t do anything.

There are also reports on Reddit of apps not installing or updating.

yonz:

I have downloaded Affinity Designer 2 from the Mac App Store under the recently launched macOS 26 Tahoe, in a M4 MacBook Pro. Mac App Store says that the app size is 2,89GB (screencap attached). Now, I have just seen that the same Affinity Designer 2 at the Mac App Store under a M2 MacBook Air at home (running macOS Sequoia) is just 546,4MB (also screencap attached). What is going on?

leyonz:

Ok, so considering that I am not the only one seeing this “size increase” in Tahoe’s Mac App Store, it is fairly safe to conclude that Apple has decided to make a few changes in how the MAS displays the estimated sizes of their apps in the new OS. I can confirm too that Whatsapp, Canvas, Lightroom and other apps appear bigger in Tahoe’s MAS as well. Or maybe all of this is just a temporary bug.

[…]

BTW, are MAS downloaded apps in not listed anymore in System Info > Applications in Tahoe? Because the ones that I have downloaded from the MAS don’t show anymore.

Tahoe’s store shows EagleFiler as slightly smaller than Sequoia’s store does, but it shows ToothFairy as more than twice as large as Sequoia’s store does.

Previously:

Update (2025-09-29): Steve Troughton-Smith:

Happy macOS Tahoe release day! 🎉🥳

Some of the reported app sizes have changed for me.

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Works on my Mac's ok and I am running two Mac's and I get updates as I always have. Just make sure Updates is highlighted in left hand column and click on Store>Reload Page.


The "mas" command you can get from Homebrew, etc, works for me.

"mas outdated" provides a list of available updates.
"mas upgrade" updates them.

The Mac App Store app also shows me a truncated list of purchased/downloaded apps.

The mas command lists 34. Apple's Mac App Store lists 14.


I had many issues with app re-installation from the MAS after testing that aoo through TestFlight. It refused to re-download. the mas command line did fix the issue.

How can this be like that? It's supposed to 'just work', right?


Mac developers whining about the App Store—spare us. You’re not victims, you’re enablers. Every time you keep selling through this dumpster fire, you prop up a system that’s hostile to both users and developers. And by playing along, you’re not just hurting yourselves—you’re dragging down the entire Mac indie ecosystem. Selling your Mac app in the Mac App Store is the equivalent of taking a dump in the swimming pool—you ruin it for everyone. I’ve never sold my apps in the Mac App Store, and I never will, because I actually care about my users and the Mac as a platform. Stop feeding the beast. Own your choice. Or nick off and go make iPhone apps.


Kinda have to agree with comment above. There are probably reasons for a developer to publish in the MAS but I can’t think of any as a user. It’s an utter failure just like Microsoft’s store because nobody wants to retcon this draconian software distribution model back on to real computers.

I avoid MAS apps at all cost and always buy direct. And this clearly shows how much regard Apple has for it. Seems they agree with me.


@Jon H Thanks for this tool! I am not on Tahoe, but that will come in handy on Sequoia too.


How did they mess it up this badly? When there were tons of reports about the issues?

It seems like Apple just doesn’t care *at all* anymore


Sander van Dragt

Time to split the Mac ecosystem from Apple. Maybe Canonical would buy it for a dollar?


@Sander van Dragt

That probably is the only way to save MacOS from desiccation. I’m pretty sure the only way that’ll happen is if the government forces it.

Should we start lobbying the US and EU to do some antitrust enforcement and break Apple up?


>Mac developers whining about the App Store—spare us. You’re not victims, you’re enablers.

Hear hear!


>I can’t think of any as a user

It's super convenient to set up a new Mac and just go through your apps and click "Install" on the ones you need. It's also super convenient to have a central way to update all of your apps.

The idea is good, it's the execution that's absolutely terrible.


I heard a while ago that Apple doesn't do automated testing and has no QA. I couldn't believe that such a big company that prides itself on the quality of its products doesn't do proper QA. But for years, their software has been riddled with bugs and problems, and the current releases seem to be worse than ever before. So maybe it's true, they don't do QA on software?


Regarding the size of apps in MAS, I have two machines: an iMac with Sequoia and a MacBook Air on Tahoe. I’ve checked every app I’ve installed from MAS on both machines, and both report the size that MAS now lists on Tahoe. I believe MAS in Tahoe now report the actual size of the app after installation. Previously, in previous systems, it only reported the size to download the app (all apps in MAS are compressed, and after downloading, they are uncompressed to install). Therefore, I don’t consider this as a bug and I believe it’s a positive change. Additionally, I don’t have any issues with updating the apps, and all apps are listed in System Information - Applications from MAS.

Personally, I prefer to download apps from MAS. I don’t need to search the web for downloads for my apps; everything is in one place. Moreover, apps in MAS don’t install unwanted software (for example, Microsoft Office, which installs Auto Update and numerous other unwanted programs, whereas the version from MAS is clean from such issues).


@Kamil I wish I had taken screenshots, because some of the app sizes have flipped since I made this post. Now, the Tahoe MAS is showing EagleFiler as larger than the Sequoia MAS does. The current Tahoe sizes do seem to match the installed app size.


>It's also super convenient to have a central way to update all of your apps.

Latest does a better job of this, since even if I wanted to I couldn't get everything I need through the MAS. And the MAS is not concerned with anything outside of it.

Maybe it's me being old fashioned again but it's just as good for me to keep a list of apps and a spreadsheet of license keys.

I'm not sure there will ever be one central software repository that will let me install everything I need. Or that we would really want that if there were. It's clearly too much power for any organization to wield without corruption.

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