{"id":8291,"date":"2014-01-08T16:35:08","date_gmt":"2014-01-08T21:35:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=8291"},"modified":"2024-05-24T11:46:00","modified_gmt":"2024-05-24T15:46:00","slug":"apple-shutting-down-developer-mailing-lists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2014\/01\/08\/apple-shutting-down-developer-mailing-lists\/","title":{"rendered":"Apple Shutting Down Developer Mailing Lists"},"content":{"rendered":"

Greg Branche<\/a>, administrator of Apple’s MPW<\/a>-Dev mailing list, quotes a message saying:<\/p>\n

List owners are encouraged to move their conversations to\n http:\/\/devforums.apple.com (for developers),\n http:\/\/discussions.apple.com (for users) or create an “Open\n community” group (via <redacted>). To facilitate this\n transition, we plan to make the non-confidential Apple Developer\n Forums readable by all Registered Apple Developers (i.e. the free\n membership level).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Via David Ryskalczyk<\/a> and Landon Fuller<\/a>. This is terrible news, as the mailing lists offer a superior user interface compared with the Web forums, along with better searchability and reliability. Of course, the MPW list no longer sees much traffic, but the Cocoa list<\/a> continues to be very useful (and the archives<\/a> are invaluable). Hopefully, a third party such as The Omni Group can (once again<\/a>) step in to fill this void.<\/p>\n

Update (2014-01-09): Reprieve!<\/a>:<\/p>\n

I am working with several fellow list owners to secure some resources\nto address the remaining concerns that will allow lists.apple.com\nstay alive. The good news is will not be retiring the service after\nall.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n

Update (2019-07-01): Eric Schlegel<\/a>:<\/p>\n

\n

I’ve been informed that the carbon-dev list will be closing down this weekend,\non June 30th.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n

Update (2019-12-30): Felix Schwarz<\/a>:<\/p>\n

\n

Looks like Apple has removed many mailing lists from lists.apple.com - including archives<\/a><\/p>\n

Just tried to read a post from 2017 in bonjour-dev referenced from Apple's forums: Page Not Found. Not even the Internet Archive has it.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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