{"id":50866,"date":"2026-01-30T17:03:22","date_gmt":"2026-01-30T22:03:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=50866"},"modified":"2026-03-30T14:00:55","modified_gmt":"2026-03-30T18:00:55","slug":"sebastiaan-de-with-rejoining-apple","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2026\/01\/30\/sebastiaan-de-with-rejoining-apple\/","title":{"rendered":"Sebastiaan de With Rejoining Apple"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@sdw\/115974928989626806\">Sebastiaan de With<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/did:plc:jlhwy6ypsnydk3v7tigq5gqq\/post\/3mdjaglq52c2m\">Bluesky<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2026\/01\/28\/sebastiaan-de-with-joins-apple\/\">MacRumors<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/tech\/869926\/apple-hires-sebastiaan-de-with-design-team-halide-lux\">The Verge<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@sdw\/115974928989626806\">\n<p>Some big personal news: I&rsquo;ve joined the Design Team at Apple. <\/p>\n<p>So excited to work with the very best team in the world on my favorite products. &#x270C;&#xFE0F;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Great news. I wish they&rsquo;d also hire <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@marioguzman\">Mario Guzm&aacute;n<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engadget.com\/big-tech\/halide-co-founder-joins-apples-design-team-235023416.html\">Anna Washenko<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.engadget.com\/big-tech\/halide-co-founder-joins-apples-design-team-235023416.html\">\n<p>Prior to Halide, de With had done other work at Apple, collaborating on properties including iCloud, MobileMe and Find My apps. It&rsquo;s unclear if his exit will mean any notable changes for Halide, or for the Lux apps Kino, Spectre and Orion.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/apple\/comments\/1qpq9jl\/comment\/o2b4vln\/\">Ben Sandofsky<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/apple\/comments\/1qpq9jl\/comment\/o2b4vln\/\">\n<p>As we mentioned in the announcement post today, we&rsquo;ve been working with legendary team at The Iconfactory on Mark III. We&rsquo;re also super excited to be collaborating with the renowned colorist Cullen Kelly on the new looks in Mark III.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>So in short, Halide is going nowhere. This has been my full time job since 2019, and I couldn&rsquo;t imagine doing anything else.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@tonyarnold\/115974810955894982\">Tony Arnold<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@tonyarnold\/115974810955894982\">\n<p>I have spent my career leaning on Apple&rsquo;s excellent design chops when building my own apps.<\/p>\n<p>Now they&rsquo;ve broken the design language of their operating systems so badly that it&rsquo;s not possible to build excellent, bug free user experiences.<\/p>\n<p>I&rsquo;ve lost a north star here, and it&rsquo;s heartbreaking because there&rsquo;s no real way for them to turn this around for a very long time.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.online\/@octothorpe\/115985740235713839\">CM Harrington<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.online\/@octothorpe\/115985740235713839\">\n<p>Here&rsquo;s the thing about my trepidation around Sebastiaan de With going to Apple is he is but one man. The rest of the company has to give a fuck about design to allow people with taste and capability to make the things.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jagsworkshop.com\/2026\/01\/sebastiaan-de-with-joins-apple\/\">Jason Anthony Guy<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/jagsworkshop.com\/2026\/01\/sebastiaan-de-with-joins-apple\/\">\n<p>Last June, just ahead of the introduction of Liquid Glass at WWDC, de With imagined what a new design language from Apple might look like, which he dubbed &ldquo;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lux.camera\/physicality-the-new-age-of-ui\/?ref=jagsworkshop.com\">Living Glass<\/a>.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>After using Liquid Glass for six months, I&rsquo;ll add one more descriptor for de With&rsquo;s design concepts: <em>restrained<\/em>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>See also: <a href=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/thetalkshow\/2026\/01\/26\/ep-439\">The Talk Show<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/atp.fm\/676\">Accidental Tech Podcast<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2026\/01\/30\/halide-mark-iii-preview\/\">Halide Mark III Preview<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/12\/03\/alan-dye-leaving-apple-for-meta\/\">Alan Dye Leaving Apple for Meta<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/10\/16\/shipping-liquid-glass\/\">Shipping Liquid Glass<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/03\/13\/rumored-redesign-in-ios-19-and-macos-16\/\">Rumored Redesign in iOS 19 and macOS 16<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"sebastiaan-de-with-rejoining-apple-update-2026-03-26\">Update (<a href=\"#sebastiaan-de-with-rejoining-apple-update-2026-03-26\">2026-03-26<\/a>): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2026\/03\/21\/apple-wanted-to-buy-halide-to-boost-iphone-18-pro\/\">Hartley Charlton<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/appleinsider.com\/articles\/26\/03\/21\/apple-wanted-to-buy-halide-co-founder-lawsuit-fight-reveals\">AppleInsider<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/business\/898687\/halide-lawsuit-co-founder-apple\">The Verge<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2026\/03\/21\/apple-wanted-to-buy-halide-to-boost-iphone-18-pro\/\">\n<p>In the summer of 2025, Apple reportedly held discussions to acquire Lux Optics, the developer behind the popular iPhone camera apps Halide, Kino, and Spectre. The company concluded that it could get a better offer from Apple in the future following updates to the app. Two months after the talks concluded without a deal, Apple set about recruiting Lux&rsquo;s co-founder and designer Sebastian de With.<\/p>\n<p>Lux CEO and co-founder Ben Sandofsky is said to have fired de With in December over financial misconduct.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>de With&rsquo;s legal representatives say that the lawsuit is meritless and deny that he &ldquo;used, transferred, or disclosed any Lux intellectual property&rdquo; as part of his new job at Apple.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>See also: <a href=\"https:\/\/mister.computer\/@kyle\/116268379641177162\">Kyle Hughes<\/a>.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sebastiaan de With (Bluesky, MacRumors, The Verge): Some big personal news: I&rsquo;ve joined the Design Team at Apple. So excited to work with the very best team in the world on my favorite products. &#x270C;&#xFE0F; Great news. I wish they&rsquo;d also hire Mario Guzm&aacute;n. 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