{"id":50000,"date":"2025-11-11T16:59:45","date_gmt":"2025-11-11T21:59:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=50000"},"modified":"2025-11-12T15:56:55","modified_gmt":"2025-11-12T20:56:55","slug":"tahoes-terrible-icons","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/11\/11\/tahoes-terrible-icons\/","title":{"rendered":"Tahoe&rsquo;s Terrible Icons"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/onefoottsunami.com\/2025\/11\/05\/tahoes-terrible-icons\/\">Paul Kafasis<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/onefoottsunami.com\/2025\/11\/05\/tahoes-terrible-icons\/\"><p>Apple updated their own app icons on Tahoe, for both the squircle shape as well as the new &ldquo;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Liquid_Glass\">Liquid Glass<\/a>&rdquo; interface. Mostly, these icons seem dumbed-down, with a loss of detail. For example, here&rsquo;s Safari&rsquo;s old icon from MacOS 15 (Sequoia) on the left, and the new Tahoe icon on the right.<\/p><p>To me, the new icon just feels blander, and that&rsquo;s widely true for all of the updated icons. A small number, such as <a href=\"https:\/\/onefoottsunami.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025-11-terribletahoeicons\/screensharing.jpg\" title=\"This looks more like a user at a computer now, anyway.\">Screen Sharing<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/onefoottsunami.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025-11-terribletahoeicons\/audiomidisetup.jpg\" title=\"I like the addition of color.\">Audio MIDI Setup<\/a>, may be improvements. Most, however, are not. Let&rsquo;s review with direct comparisons, all of which again feature the older Sequoia icon on the left and the new Tahoe icon on the right.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Apple&rsquo;s scripting application previously featured an awesome little robot dude. On Tahoe, it&rsquo;s barely clear that&rsquo;s a robot at all. What a pity.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>These icons, however, make me sad. Perhaps one day, it will again be possible for icons to have shape and personality. We have the technology.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/tidbits.com\/2025\/11\/05\/tahoes-terrible-icons-another-take\/\">Adam Engst<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/tidbits.com\/2025\/11\/05\/tahoes-terrible-icons-another-take\/\">\n<p>The post is worth reading for Paul&rsquo;s trenchant commentary, but it also illustrates just how much of a step backward the Tahoe icons are in both concept and execution. I couldn&rsquo;t quite believe they were as blurry as they looked in his comparisons until I extracted Safari&rsquo;s icons and compared them by toggling between versions in Quick Look.<\/p>\n<p>The only thing I can say in Apple&rsquo;s defense is that the Tahoe icons aren&rsquo;t as objectionable when viewed in isolation&mdash;outside of comparisons like this, most of us don&rsquo;t scrutinize individual icons. But uniform shapes and softened details have real user impact: they increase visual search time in the Dock and make it harder to distinguish apps at small sizes&mdash;especially on high&#x2011;density displays and for users with low vision.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/talk.tidbits.com\/t\/tahoe-s-terrible-icons-another-take\/32273\">Michael Schmitt<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/talk.tidbits.com\/t\/tahoe-s-terrible-icons-another-take\/32273\">\n<p>I can think of <em>no<\/em> squircle icon that is objectively better than the pre-squircle version. They all look like they&rsquo;re being forced to compromise. Some, even a few Apple icons, look like they&rsquo;re trying to show a <em>little<\/em> flair with parts extending behind the squircle, but even that is verboten in Tahoe.<\/p>\n<p>And, they&rsquo;re all smaller! A squircle icon isn&rsquo;t permitted to be full size!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/sixcolors.com\/link\/2025\/11\/macos-tahoes-icons-are-a-step-backwards\/\">Dan Moren<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/sixcolors.com\/link\/2025\/11\/macos-tahoes-icons-are-a-step-backwards\/\"><p>The look and feel of the Mac has always been&mdash;if you&rsquo;ll pardon the pun&mdash;iconic. App icons were a place that developers could show off their creativity, and make apps that are instantly identifiable. <a href=\"https:\/\/sixcolors.com\/post\/2025\/09\/macos-26-tahoe-review-power-under-glass\/\">Squircle jail<\/a> remains a thing in macOS 26.1 (and, I&rsquo;d argue, is worse than before, with a new lighter gray background that feels even more jarring). Here&rsquo;s hoping this trend gets reversed before too long.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2025\/11\/07\/tahoes-terrible-icons\">John Gruber<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@daringfireball\/115510660475701801\">Mastodon<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2025\/11\/07\/tahoes-terrible-icons\">\n<p>They&rsquo;re ugly, they&rsquo;re dumb (like the new Apple Calendar icon, showing a month that somehow has only 24 days), and many of them&#x2009;&mdash;&#x2009;regardless of whether they&rsquo;re aesthetically pleasing or not&#x2009;&mdash;&#x2009;are inscrutable. The fundamental purpose of an icon is to have meaning. And some of these are meaningless.<\/p>\n<p>Even good styles fall out of fashion as trends change. But good styles come back into style eventually. A few decades from now, no one is going to say &ldquo;Hey, let&rsquo;s bring back 2020s-style icons.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>For a remarkably long stretch, Apple&rsquo;s in-house icons represented the pinnacle of <a href=\"https:\/\/flarup.shop\/products\/the-macos-app-icon-book\">an art form worth celebrating<\/a>. They were exquisitely crafted, and quite obviously the work of the most talented artists in the field. [&#8230;] &ldquo;Fuck it, who cares&rdquo; is replacing &ldquo;Insanely great&rdquo; as the company&rsquo;s design mantra for software.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@peternlewis\/115511314039272490\">Peter N. Lewis<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@peternlewis\/115511314039272490\"><p>It&rsquo;s bad enough they fuck up their own icons - but that they actively fuck up everyone else&rsquo;s icons is unforgivable.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>See also: the <a href=\"https:\/\/forums.macrumors.com\/threads\/tahoes-terrible-icons.2470563\/\">MacRumors forum<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/11\/04\/macos-26-1\/\">macOS 26.1<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/10\/16\/shipping-liquid-glass\/\">Shipping Liquid Glass<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/09\/08\/macos-icon-history\/\">macOS Icon History<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/09\/05\/one-size-does-not-fit-all\/\">One Size Does Not Fit All<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/09\/03\/macos-tahoe-26-developer-beta-9\/\">macOS Tahoe 26 Developer Beta 9<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/08\/18\/macos-tahoe-26-developer-beta-7\/\">macOS Tahoe 26 Developer Beta 7<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/06\/30\/assorted-notes-on-liquid-glass\/\">Assorted Notes on Liquid Glass<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/06\/24\/macos-tahoe-26-developer-beta-2\/\">macOS Tahoe 26 Developer Beta 2<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/06\/19\/macos-tahoes-new-theming-system\/\">macOS Tahoe&rsquo;s New Theming System<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/09\/05\/the-macos-app-icon-book\/\">The macOS App Icon Book<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"tahoes-terrible-icons-update-2025-11-12\">Update (<a href=\"#tahoes-terrible-icons-update-2025-11-12\">2025-11-12<\/a>): <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.jim-nielsen.com\/2025\/tahoes-terrible-icons-b-sides\/\">Jim Nielsen<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/blog.jim-nielsen.com\/2025\/tahoes-terrible-icons-b-sides\/\">\n<p>While Paul&rsquo;s post mostly covers icons for the apps you&rsquo;ll find in the primary <code>\/Applications<\/code> folder, there&rsquo;s also a subset of possibly lesser-known icons in the <code>\/System\/Library\/CoreServices<\/code> folder which have suffered a similar fate.<\/p><p>When I first got a Mac back in college, one of the things I remember being completely intrigued by &mdash; and then later falling in love with &mdash; was how you could plumb obscure areas of the operating system and find gems, like the icons for little OS-level apps. You&rsquo;d stumble on something like the &ldquo;Add Printer&rdquo; app and see the most beautiful printer icon you&rsquo;d ever seen. Who cares what the app did, you could just stare at that icon. Admire it. Take it in. And you&rsquo;d come away with a sense that <a href=\"https:\/\/notes.jim-nielsen.com\/#2025-05-01T2142\">the people who made it really cared<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Paul Kafasis: Apple updated their own app icons on Tahoe, for both the squircle shape as well as the new &ldquo;Liquid Glass&rdquo; interface. Mostly, these icons seem dumbed-down, with a loss of detail. For example, here&rsquo;s Safari&rsquo;s old icon from MacOS 15 (Sequoia) on the left, and the new Tahoe icon on the right.To me, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2025-11-11T21:59:49Z","apple_news_api_id":"c801e0ce-8481-4734-80da-2c48734f78c6","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2025-11-12T20:56:58Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/AyAHgzoSBRzSA2ixIc094xg","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[77,545,2785,30,2742],"class_list":["post-50000","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-design","tag-icons","tag-liquid-glass","tag-mac","tag-macos-tahoe-26"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50000","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=50000"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50000\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":50015,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50000\/revisions\/50015"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=50000"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=50000"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=50000"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}