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Jason Kottke<\/a>:<\/p>\n

I’m usually pretty go-with-the-flow as far as OS updates go, but iOS 26<\/a> \/ Liquid Glass<\/a> is terrible: incoherent, ugly, and difficult to use. Obviously a massive design effort, but they missed the mark IMO.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n

Juli Clover<\/a>:<\/p>\n

It’s been two days since iOS 26 was released, and Apple’s new Liquid Glass design is even more divisive than expected.<\/p>

Any major design change can create controversy as people get used to the new look, but the MacRumors<\/em> forums<\/a>, Reddit<\/a>, Apple Support Communities<\/a>, and social media sites seem to feature more criticism than praise as people discuss the update.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n

Craig Hockenberry<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Here’s my guess what happened in the lead up to WWDC25:<\/p>

Apple realized it was deep in the weeds with Apple Intelligence (and associated PR) and needed a tentpole feature that wasn’t AI.<\/p>

Liquid Glass was in development for some upcoming edgeless hardware. It needed another year of work, but management\/marketing was fucked.<\/p>

A thing that wasn’t ready got moved up. Bug fixing took a back seat. Everyone grabbed paint brushes, not screwdrivers.<\/p>

The next year is going to be rough for EVERYONE.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n

Steve Troughton-Smith<\/a>:<\/p>\n

My review of Liquid Glass: generally, I love it. <\/p>

It’s gorgeous on the right device in the right circumstances. iPadOS, in particular, on a large screen in windowing mode is, by far, my favorite.<\/p>

But it also has a ton of problems with real-world content that weren’t fully accounted for in concepts before announcement, which has lead to a pile of fixes and hacks to try to make it work for all the edge cases. It’s this which brings the majority of bugs and major issues into all areas of the UI.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n

DaveyGravy<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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What is the design thinking here for displaying the time over my wallpaper? Letting the wallpaper bleed through in this way makes it hard to see and in no way pleasant.<\/p>\n

What is going on here exactly?<\/p>\n

Also, what effect is the highlighting\/shading meant to be achieving? I don’t see it - if it is a layer of something liquid I don’t feel it works at a basic level. What am I missing?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n

Norbert Heger<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Liquid Glass now also ruins screenshots under some circumstances. Compare the left margin of these two screenshots, which just include a slightly different portion of the sidebar.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n

Matt Gemmell<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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I’ll say this for the macOS Liquid Arse update: the Finder windows are nicer to look at. Somehow they have more contrast rather than less. And coloured folders again; what a time to be alive and trapped in a Kaleidoscope theme.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n

Jeff Johnson<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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Liquid Glass is not an aberration. It’s continuation of everything Apple has been getting wrong about UI for more than a decade.<\/p>\n

Apple was never perfect, but they used to get things right more often than anyone else, and right or wrong they sweated over the details.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n

Louie Mantia<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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Liquid Glass is perhaps the most getting-in-the-way user interface I’ve experienced in my lifetime. It never shuts up. It’s constantly vying for attention. Because it’s constantly animating, it never lets the content be the focus.<\/p>\n

\nI don’t think I realized until now that UI could be so narcissistic.\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n

Jesse Grosjean<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Are any of Apple’s larger productivity apps updated for Liquid Glass yet? Pages doesn’t seem to be.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n

Mario Guzmán<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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I’ve been wondering when iLife, iWork, and Pro Apps are going to be released with Liquid Glass updates.<\/p>\n

Or are they unable to ship something… suitable with the new design language? 🤭<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n

Steve Troughton-Smith<\/a>:<\/p>\n

The Pro apps shipped with the new SDK, but they’ve opted out of the design language…<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n

Mindaugas Rudokas<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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Cultured Code’s Things says “no thank you” to the Liquid Glass’ sidebar and toolbar style.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n

Brent Simmons<\/a>:<\/p>\n

We’re hearing from folks eager for the Liquid Glass update to NetNewsWire. The bad news is that it’s not coming this week or next (who knows when, really) — but the good news is that it is very much in progress.<\/p>

[…]<\/p>

If you’d like a sneak peak of what NetNewsWire 7 will look like, check out these posts [1<\/a>, 2<\/a>] by Stuart Breckenridge, who’s done great work on our Liquid Glass adoption[…]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n

MacStories<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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Today, we wanted to share some of our favorite implementations of Liquid Glass and other features debuted this fall by indie developers.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n

Pasi Salenius<\/a>:<\/p>\n

As far as I can tell all major iOS apps such as WhatsApp, Telegram and Spotify just enabled the compatibility Info.plist flag for Xcode 26 and went on with their life.<\/p>

While indie devs sweated all summer trying to make Liquid Glass UI work in their apps, telling themselves they “need to be ready on day one”. The iOS dev echo chamber repeated this message to death.<\/p>

I don’t think the general public cares one bit. Nobody gives a 5 star review because an app supports the new iOS UI. Nobody buys an app because of that.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n

Adam Whitcroft<\/a>:<\/p>\n

I think it’s sad we can’t make macOS icons like this anymore.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n

Sebastiaan de With<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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I have seen very little grief for this but the sadness is very real. It’s the end of a really special era.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n

Louie Mantia<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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So here’s my question: a lot of these things were pointed out for months—and besides how I don’t think Apple should be outsourcing bug reporting to the rest of us—do they just not have a good QA team anymore? Or is it just that they don’t care about the bugs they ship anymore?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n

JuniperPhoton<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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Instead of spending the whole summer reworking my apps’ designs, I recently adopted the new design in some of my apps while maintaining the same look on older platforms. I’ve learned a few lessons and pitfalls along the way that might help.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n

Howard Oakley<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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Even a few minutes exposure to a screenful of macOS Tahoe’s windows demonstrates how its new design goes out of its way to ignore those essential insights, and present us with controls that are either bleached- or blacked-out depending on our choice of appearance mode.<\/p>\n

In light mode, with default transparency, tool icons and text are clearly distinguished tonally, as are some controls including buttons and checkboxes. However, text entry fields are indistinguishable from the background, and there’s a general lack of demarcation, particularly between the controls and the list view below.<\/p>\n

Oddly, dark mode outlines some controls better than light mode, but text entry fields and the list view below still lack demarcation.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n

Mario Guzmán<\/a>:<\/p>\n

The inconsistency of Apple Music’s toolbar in #macOSTahoe is annoying. Sometimes you get the blur, sometimes you get the solid toolbar, and other times you get nothing.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n

Chris Pirillo<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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Jeff Johnson<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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The debate over Liquid Glass needs to be put into context. It’s not just an isolated incident. Apple has been systematically wrecking the Mac UI for many years: System Settings, Big Sur, Catalyst, etc. To evaluate Liquid Glass “on its own merits” is to ignore history.<\/p>\n

Any theory you formulate that Apple has some unstated “good” reasons for its UI choices now has to account for ALL of the data, i.e., the historical data, the history of obviously bad UI choices.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n

Steve Troughton-Smith<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Statistically, nobody cares about Liquid Glass. There has been no user revolt, no viral TikToks, no nothing. Nobody’s even complaining about the Music app. On the flipside, nobody is proclaiming its virtues, either. It just kinda… is, and everybody is moving on with their lives.<\/p>

The only thing anybody seems to care about is transparent & tinted icons — which a certain kind of person seems to love<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n

Previously:<\/p>\n