{"id":49636,"date":"2025-10-15T14:49:00","date_gmt":"2025-10-15T18:49:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=49636"},"modified":"2026-01-09T10:58:05","modified_gmt":"2026-01-09T15:58:05","slug":"apple-vision-pro-m5-2025","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/10\/15\/apple-vision-pro-m5-2025\/","title":{"rendered":"Apple Vision Pro (M5, 2025)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.apple.com\/newsroom\/2025\/10\/apple-vision-pro-upgraded-with-the-m5-chip-and-dual-knit-band\/\">Apple<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=45591801\">Hacker News<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macstories.net\/news\/apple-reveals-the-m5-apple-vision-pro\/\">MacStories<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.apple.com\/newsroom\/2025\/10\/apple-vision-pro-upgraded-with-the-m5-chip-and-dual-knit-band\/\"><p>Apple today introduced <a href=\"https:\/\/www.apple.com\/apple-vision-pro\/\">Apple Vision Pro<\/a> with the powerful <a href=\"https:\/\/www.apple.com\/newsroom\/2025\/10\/apple-unleashes-m5-the-next-big-leap-in-ai-performance-for-apple-silicon\/\">M5 chip<\/a> that delivers a leap forward in performance, improved display rendering, faster AI-powered workflows, and extended battery life. The upgraded Vision Pro also comes with the soft, cushioned Dual Knit Band to help users achieve an even more comfortable fit, and visionOS 26, which unlocks innovative spatial experiences, including widgets, new Personas, an interactive Jupiter Environment, and new Apple Intelligence features with support for additional languages. There are over 1 million apps and thousands of games on the App Store, hundreds of 3D movies on the Apple TV app, and all-new series and films in Apple Immersive with a selection of live NBA games coming soon.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/news\/798962\/apple-m5-vision-pro-headset-mixed-reality\">Victoria Song<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/news\/798962\/apple-m5-vision-pro-headset-mixed-reality\">\n<p>But aside from the chip upgrade, nothing about the Vision Pro&rsquo;s design has changed. Instead, Apple&rsquo;s press release claims that the M5 chip will bring faster processing and more detailed image rendering. Specifically, the M5 renders 10 percent more pixels on the OLED displays and can increase refresh rates up to 120Hz. Previously it maxed out at 100Hz. As for processing, AI-powered features like a Persona or spatial photos are up to 50 percent faster. Battery life is also improved by about 30 minutes, up to 2.5 hours of general use and three hours of video playback.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/sixcolors.com\/post\/2025\/10\/apple-launches-m5-powered-vision-pro-with-new-dual-knit-band\/\">Dan Moren<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/sixcolors.com\/post\/2025\/10\/apple-launches-m5-powered-vision-pro-with-new-dual-knit-band\/\">\n<p>Those hoping for a price change will be disappointed: it still starts at $3,499 with storage tiers in 256GB, 512GB, and 1TB at the same prices as before. In addition to the new Dual Knit Band, it includes the same Light Seal, pair of Light Seal Cushions, cover, polishing cloth, battery, and USB-C cable. However it also includes Apple&rsquo;s recently announced 40W Dynamic Power Adapter with 60W Max, though it seems like an expensive way to get that if you want it.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2025\/10\/15\/apple-announces-vision-pro-with-m5-chip\/\">Joe Rossignol<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2025\/10\/15\/apple-announces-vision-pro-with-m5-chip\/\">\n<p>The new Dual Knit Band comes in small, medium, and large sizes. It is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.apple.com\/shop\/product\/DUAL_KNIT_BAND_SA\/apple-vision-pro-dual-knit-band\">available to purchase separately for $99<\/a>, and it is compatible with the previous-generation Vision Pro. You can find your preferred size by using the Apple Store app on the iPhone.<\/p>\n<p>Apple says the Dual Knit Band features two straps knitted into a single piece. The upper strap goes across the top of the head, and the lower strap goes across the back of the head. The lower strap has tungsten inserts that provide a counterweight for additional comfort, balance, and stability. You can adjust the fit of both of the straps with the Fit Dial.<\/p>\n<p>Another new accessory is the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2025\/10\/15\/new-accessories-for-vision-pro-now-available\/\">Logitech Muse spatial stylus<\/a>, and Apple will begin selling the PlayStation VR2 Sense controller starting Tuesday, November 11.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.macstories.net\/@viticci\/115378434296190934\">Federico Viticci<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.macstories.net\/@viticci\/115378434296190934\">\n<p>They literally did an official version of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macstories.net\/stories\/vision-pro-chronicles-my-custom-dual-knit-open-setup-for-maximum-comfort-and-awareness\/\">custom &ldquo;dual-knit&rdquo; accessory<\/a> for the Vision Pro from Etsy last year!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/markgurman\/status\/1978492907855503771\">Mark Gurman<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/x.com\/markgurman\/status\/1978492907855503771\">\n<p>The M5 Vision Pro is advertised as quite a bit heavier than the M2 Vision Pro -- Likely because of the new strap (which is clearly heavier but solves the comfort problem).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@lapcatsoftware\/115378358360636638\">Jeff Johnson<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@lapcatsoftware\/115378358360636638\">\n<p>0.3% of Vision Pro apps are built for visionOS. And this is Apple&rsquo;s own marketing!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@stroughtonsmith\/115377962800946195\">Steve Troughton-Smith<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@stroughtonsmith\/115377962800946195\"><p>Vision Pro is rapidly coming on 2 years old now and Apple still hasn&rsquo;t ported Pages or Numbers to it, and half the built-in apps on the OS are emulated iPad apps. It would be embarrassing if it weren&rsquo;t so very desperately sad. They effectively halted all in-box-app progress the moment it was shown off at WWDC23 &mdash; nothing new has been announced since<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@stroughtonsmith\/115378426929136686\">Steve Troughton-Smith<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@stroughtonsmith\/115378426929136686\"><p>2 years on and Apple still hasn&rsquo;t figured out a deal with Netflix for the Vision Pro?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/10\/15\/apple-m5\/\">Apple M5<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/10\/02\/meta-ray-ban-display\/\">Meta Ray-Ban Display<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/01\/18\/netflix-and-the-initial-apple-vision-pro-apps\/\">Netflix and the Initial Apple Vision Pro Apps<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/06\/05\/apple-vision-pro\/\">Apple Vision Pro<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"apple-vision-pro-m5-2025-update-2025-10-16\">Update (<a href=\"#apple-vision-pro-m5-2025-update-2025-10-16\">2025-10-16<\/a>): <a href=\"https:\/\/birchtree.me\/blog\/screen-oddities-and-the-m5-vision-pro\/\">Matt Birchler<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/birchtree.me\/blog\/screen-oddities-and-the-m5-vision-pro\/\"><p>Maybe I&rsquo;m misunderstanding something here, but it seems like the original model was unable to take full advantage of the displays, otherwise how would we be getting better display &ldquo;specs&rdquo; with the same hardware?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/2025\/10\/m5_chip_launches_with_macbook_pro_ipad_pro_vision_pro\">John Gruber<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/2025\/10\/m5_chip_launches_with_macbook_pro_ipad_pro_vision_pro\">\n<p>It&rsquo;s a tacit acknowledgement that physical comfort has been a real problem for many people who&rsquo;ve tried Vision Pro. (Me, personally, I find using it with the Solo Knit Band comfortable for as long as I care to use it&#x2009;&mdash;&#x2009;which is typically just 2&#x2013;3 hours, tops.)<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>No price drop, no change to the form factor. But Apple&rsquo;s interest in the platform is very much alive.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"apple-vision-pro-m5-2025-update-2025-10-17\">Update (<a href=\"#apple-vision-pro-m5-2025-update-2025-10-17\">2025-10-17<\/a>): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2025\/10\/17\/apple-vision-pro-dual-knit-band-popular\/\">Juli Clover<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2025\/10\/17\/apple-vision-pro-dual-knit-band-popular\/\"><p>It appears  M2  Vision Pro owners are eager for an accessory that makes the headset easier to wear, because the $99 Dual Knit Band is now backordered for at least a month. As of yesterday, new Dual Knit Band orders were delivering between November 7 and November 14, and wait times could get even longer.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"apple-vision-pro-m5-2025-update-2025-10-22\">Update (<a href=\"#apple-vision-pro-m5-2025-update-2025-10-22\">2025-10-22<\/a>): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/review\/vision-pro-m5-chip\/\">Joe Rossignol<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/review\/vision-pro-m5-chip\/\">\n<p>The first reviews of the Vision Pro with the M5 chip have been shared by selected publications and YouTube channels, ahead of the device launching this Wednesday.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"apple-vision-pro-m5-2025-update-2025-12-01\">Update (<a href=\"#apple-vision-pro-m5-2025-update-2025-12-01\">2025-12-01<\/a>): <a href=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/gadgets\/2025\/11\/where-apples-vision-pro-stands-today-post-m5-refresh\/\">Samuel Axon<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/gadgets\/2025\/11\/where-apples-vision-pro-stands-today-post-m5-refresh\/\">\n<p>I still like the Vision Pro, but I can tell it&rsquo;s hanging on by a thread. Content is light, developer support is tepid, and while Apple has taken action to improve both, it&rsquo;s not enough, and I&rsquo;m concerned it might be too late.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>As the months went on, though, I used it less and less. The novelty wore off, and as cool as it remained, practicality beat coolness. By the time Apple sent me the newer model a couple of weeks ago, I had only put the original one on a few times in the prior couple of months. I had mostly stopped using it at home, but I still took it on trips as an entertainment device for hotel rooms now and then.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>After a few weeks of using the new Vision Pro hardware refresh daily, it&rsquo;s clear to me that the platform needs a bigger rethink. As a fan of the device, I&rsquo;m concerned it won&rsquo;t get that, because all the rumors point to Apple pouring its future resources into smart glasses, which, to me, are a completely different product category.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Apple (Hacker News, MacStories): Apple today introduced Apple Vision Pro with the powerful M5 chip that delivers a leap forward in performance, improved display rendering, faster AI-powered workflows, and extended battery life. 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