{"id":49602,"date":"2025-10-10T16:52:30","date_gmt":"2025-10-10T20:52:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=49602"},"modified":"2025-10-10T16:56:44","modified_gmt":"2025-10-10T20:56:44","slug":"deicer-removed-from-the-app-store","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/10\/10\/deicer-removed-from-the-app-store\/","title":{"rendered":"DEICER Removed From the App Store"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/migrantinsider.com\/p\/scoop-apple-quietly-made-ice-agents\">Pablo Manr&iacute;quez<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/migrantinsider.com\/p\/scoop-apple-quietly-made-ice-agents\">\n<p>Apple has quietly removed DeICER, a civic-reporting app used to log immigration enforcement activity, from its App Store after a law enforcement complaint &mdash; invoking a rule normally reserved for protecting marginalized groups from hate speech.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Apple told developer Rafael Concepcion that the app violated Guideline 1.1.1, which prohibits &ldquo;defamatory, discriminatory, or mean-spirited content&rdquo; directed at &ldquo;religion, race, sexual orientation, gender, national\/ethnic origin, or other targeted groups.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Some people are upset about this part because government officers aren&rsquo;t normally considered a protected class. But that&rsquo;s not the language the guideline uses. And I see no reason to allow this sort of content targeted at <em>any<\/em> group, be it teachers, Supreme Court justices, people who look a certain way or live in a certain state, whatever. Apple&rsquo;s reasoning isn&rsquo;t bogus because it&rsquo;s protecting the wrong people; it&rsquo;s bogus because that&rsquo;s not what the app is doing.<\/p>\n\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/migrantinsider.com\/p\/scoop-apple-quietly-made-ice-agents\">\n<p>But Apple&rsquo;s justification went further. &ldquo;Information provided to Apple by law enforcement shows that your app violates Guideline 1.1.1 because its purpose is to provide location information about law enforcement officers <strong>that<\/strong> can be used to harm such officers individually or as a group,&rdquo; the company wrote in its removal notice.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Since that&rsquo;s not the stated (or designed) purpose of the app, the &ldquo;that&rdquo; should have been a &ldquo;which.&rdquo; And then Apple&rsquo;s justification doesn&rsquo;t make any sense.<\/p>\n\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/migrantinsider.com\/p\/scoop-apple-quietly-made-ice-agents\">\n<p>Concepcion&rsquo;s appeal to Apple emphasized that DeICER was &ldquo;a tool for education and lawful civic engagement, not the targeting or tracking of law enforcement.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;Users cannot follow, locate, or monitor officers in real time,&rdquo; he wrote in his memo to Apple&rsquo;s App Review Board. &ldquo;Any observation entered in the app represents a single moment in time, not a persistent or live tracking function.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Via <a href=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2025\/10\/09\/apple-app-store-deicer\">John Gruber<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@daringfireball\/115345458633268915\">Mastodon<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2025\/10\/09\/apple-app-store-deicer\">\n<p>There&rsquo;s not one story about any of these apps being used to harm ICE agents. And even if such an attack happened, that wouldn&rsquo;t imply it&rsquo;s the purpose of these apps.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>I haven&rsquo;t seen such a story, either. The Dallas gunman is reported to have <em>used<\/em> the app, but he didn&rsquo;t it need to find the agents, as the attack took place at their office.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/2025\/10\/10\/apple-decides-ice-agents-are-a-protected-class-because-apparently-government-accountability-is-now-hate-speech\/\">Mike Masnick<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/2025\/10\/10\/apple-decides-ice-agents-are-a-protected-class-because-apparently-government-accountability-is-now-hate-speech\/\">\n<p>And, yes, I&rsquo;ll be the first to tell you that content moderation at scale <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techdirt.com\/2019\/11\/20\/masnicks-impossibility-theorem-content-moderation-scale-is-impossible-to-do-well\/\">is impossible to do well<\/a>, and that applies to app stores as well. But when you see a pattern this consistent&mdash;and this convenient for state power&mdash;pointing to scale problems feels inadequate. This looks less like algorithmic confusion and more like Apple systematically bending its policies to accommodate government preferences while trying to maintain plausible deniability.<\/p>\n<p>This reasoning is deeply problematic on multiple levels. First, it treats documentation of public officials&rsquo; public actions as equivalent to hate speech against marginalized groups. Second, it accepts law enforcement&rsquo;s own assessment of what constitutes &ldquo;harm&rdquo; to them without any independent review. Third, it creates a precedent where any app that allows citizens to track government activity could be banned as &ldquo;discriminatory&rdquo; against public officials.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/apple-took-down-ice-tracking-apps-their-developers-arent-giving-up\/\">Reece Rogers and Lily Hay Newman<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/apple-took-down-ice-tracking-apps-their-developers-arent-giving-up\/\">\n<p>While gone from Apple&rsquo;s App Store, DEICER is also still available via Google Play and a <a href=\"https:\/\/deicer.org\/\">website<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/10\/09\/eyes-up-removed-from-the-app-store\/\">Eyes Up Removed From the App Store<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/10\/08\/lessons-from-san-bernardino-and-iceblock\/\">Lessons From San Bernardino and ICEBlock<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/10\/08\/evolving-altstore-pal\/\">Evolving AltStore PAL<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/10\/03\/iceblock-removed-from-the-app-store\/\">ICEBlock Removed From the App Store<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pablo Manr&iacute;quez: Apple has quietly removed DeICER, a civic-reporting app used to log immigration enforcement activity, from its App Store after a law enforcement complaint &mdash; invoking a rule normally reserved for protecting marginalized groups from hate speech. [&#8230;] Apple told developer Rafael Concepcion that the app violated Guideline 1.1.1, which prohibits &ldquo;defamatory, discriminatory, or [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2025-10-10T20:52:32Z","apple_news_api_id":"8ad819f1-e764-4220-abda-68ebaba53e47","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2025-10-10T20:56:47Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQ==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/AitgZ8edkQiCr2mjrq6U-Rw","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[91,130,2092,2847,31,2741,26,2686],"class_list":["post-49602","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-appstore","tag-rejection","tag-app-store-takedown","tag-deicer","tag-ios","tag-ios-26","tag-iosapp","tag-law-enforcement"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49602","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=49602"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49602\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":49607,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49602\/revisions\/49607"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=49602"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=49602"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=49602"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}