{"id":49588,"date":"2025-10-09T13:48:30","date_gmt":"2025-10-09T17:48:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=49588"},"modified":"2025-10-09T13:52:18","modified_gmt":"2025-10-09T17:52:18","slug":"french-siri-spying-lawsuit","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/10\/09\/french-siri-spying-lawsuit\/","title":{"rendered":"French Siri Spying Lawsuit"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.eu\/article\/paris-prosecutor-opens-investigation-into-apples-voice-assistant-siri\/\">Oc&eacute;ane Herrero<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.politico.eu\/article\/paris-prosecutor-opens-investigation-into-apples-voice-assistant-siri\/\"><p>The investigation, led by the country&rsquo;s cybercrime agency OFAC, follows a complaint in February by the French NGO <em>Ligue des droits de l&rsquo;Homme<\/em>, based on the testimony of a whistleblower and former employee of an Apple subcontractor Thomas Le Bonniec.<\/p><p>As an employee of Globe Technical Services in Ireland in 2019, Le Bonniec analyzed recordings made by Siri to improve the quality of the voice assistant&rsquo;s responses. That involved listening to thousands of user recordings, which Le Bonniec said could reveal intimate moments and confidential information, and could be used to identify users.<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>The February complaint also paved the way for an ongoing class action in France. That was inspired by a class action in the United States, which saw Apple accused of recording private conversations without consumers&rsquo; knowledge. Apple agreed in December 2024 to settle the case for $95 million. The company denied any wrongdoing.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Via <a href=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2025\/10\/08\/apple-france-siri-opt-in-recordings\">John Gruber<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2025\/10\/08\/apple-france-siri-opt-in-recordings\">\n<p>Sending recorded Siri voice interactions to Apple <em>is<\/em> opt-in, and the opt-in screen is very clear and cogent.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>That&rsquo;s the case today, but it seems like this investigation is based on the same time period as the American lawsuit. Back then, it was <em>not<\/em> clear to customers that the recordings were retained and used outside of Apple, and the generic iOS opt-out control did <em>not<\/em> affect Siri recordings. Apple later added a Siri-specific opt-out switch, and then made it opt-in. Here <a href=\"https:\/\/www.apple.com\/jo\/newsroom\/2025\/01\/our-longstanding-privacy-commitment-with-siri\/\">Apple&rsquo;s response<\/a> from January. I wish Apple had not <a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/01\/03\/apple-settles-siri-spying-lawsuit\/\">settled the lawsuit<\/a> then because it made them look like they had something to hide. Le Bonniec is called a whistleblower. Does he have any new information, or is the French lawsuit just piggybacking and trying to get its own settlement?<\/p>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/04\/03\/france-fines-apple-over-app-tracking-transparency\/\">France Fines Apple Over App Tracking Transparency<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/01\/03\/apple-settles-siri-spying-lawsuit\/\">Apple Settles Siri Spying Lawsuit<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/04\/15\/keeping-your-data-from-apple-is-harder-than-expected\/\">Keeping Your Data From Apple Is Harder Than Expected<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/01\/04\/siri-suggestions-and-privacy\/\">Siri Suggestions and Privacy<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/05\/21\/lack-of-action-on-siri-recordings\/\">&ldquo;Lack of Action&rdquo; on Siri Recordings<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/10\/13\/opting-out-of-sharing-siri-audio-recordings\/\">Opting Out of Sharing Siri Audio Recordings<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/07\/29\/apple-contractors-regularly-hear-confidential-details-on-siri-recordings\/\">Apple Contractors &ldquo;Regularly Hear Confidential Details&rdquo; on Siri Recordings<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/04\/11\/amazon-employees-review-small-sample-of-alexa-audio\/\">Amazon Employees Review &ldquo;Small Sample&rdquo; of Alexa Audio<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Oc&eacute;ane Herrero: The investigation, led by the country&rsquo;s cybercrime agency OFAC, follows a complaint in February by the French NGO Ligue des droits de l&rsquo;Homme, based on the testimony of a whistleblower and former employee of an Apple subcontractor Thomas Le Bonniec.As an employee of Globe Technical Services in Ireland in 2019, Le Bonniec analyzed [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2025-10-09T17:48:32Z","apple_news_api_id":"a673a6e0-8e13-4ef5-9aca-664546196a99","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2025-10-09T17:52:21Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQ==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/ApnOm4I4TTvWaymZFRhlqmQ","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[95,2169,31,1667,41,209,355,247],"class_list":["post-49588","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-audio","tag-france","tag-ios","tag-ios-13","tag-lawsuit","tag-legal","tag-privacy","tag-siri"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49588","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=49588"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49588\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":49597,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49588\/revisions\/49597"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=49588"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=49588"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=49588"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}