{"id":48555,"date":"2025-07-21T15:46:11","date_gmt":"2025-07-21T19:46:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=48555"},"modified":"2025-07-21T15:46:11","modified_gmt":"2025-07-21T19:46:11","slug":"usb-c-hubs-and-my-slow-descent-into-madness","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/07\/21\/usb-c-hubs-and-my-slow-descent-into-madness\/","title":{"rendered":"USB-C Hubs and My Slow Descent Into Madness"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/overengineer.dev\/blog\/2021\/04\/25\/usb-c-hub-madness\/\">Dennis Schubert<\/a> (2021, via <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=44600512\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/overengineer.dev\/blog\/2021\/04\/25\/usb-c-hub-madness\/\"><p>I have one of those laptops lacking a lot of accessory ports. In fact, I&rsquo;m writing this on an Apple MacBook Pro, and all I got was four lousy USB-C ports. If I want to connect pretty much anything, I need some sort of adapter or some sort of hub. USB-C hubs are a great idea: not only do they usually offer a power supply pass-through, but they also allow you to plug in some USB devices, an ethernet cable, and maybe even a monitor. Some even have fancy stuff like an SD card reader or a secondary audio output! And all of that over a single USB-C connection, which makes everything super comfortable if you frequently carry your laptop around your home, but you also have a desk with fixed devices set up.<\/p><p>Unfortunately, since 2018, I&rsquo;ve worked through <strong>three<\/strong> USB-C hubs, and they&rsquo;re all kinda bad.<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>It honestly feels like no matter what you buy, you get more or less the same hardware, and you&rsquo;re most likely getting a heavily overpriced product just because some company printed their logo on it.<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>The fact that most USB-C hubs tend to use the same RTL8153 networking stack is also very annoying, especially since this is known to break on macOS, and it looks like Realtek just doesn&rsquo;t care. That&rsquo;s not really great if you&rsquo;re promoting your hub primarily to MacBook owners.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=44602414\">dazzaji<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=44602414\"><p>One of the things that I found most frustrating about USB-C hubs is how hard it is to find one that actually gives you multiple USB-C ports. I have several USB-C devices but most hubs just give you one USB-C port and a bunch of USB-A ports. At most it&rsquo;s 2 USB-C ports but only with the hub that plugs into both USB-C ports on my MacBook Pro (so I&rsquo;m never able to get more ports than I started with). The result is I end up having to keep swapping devices. For a connector that was supposed to be the &ldquo;one universal port,&rdquo; it&rsquo;s weird that most hubs assume you only need one USB-C connection. Has anyone found a decent hub with multiple USB-C data outputs?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>I&rsquo;m using an Anker hub with a bunch of USB-A ports, and it&rsquo;s one of the more reliable ones I&rsquo;ve owned&mdash;certainly better than the Studio Display&mdash;but I do have the sense that it&rsquo;s slowing things down compared with when I connect drives directly to my MacBook Pro. I&rsquo;m also using an Anker Thunderbolt dock, which is pretty good but doesn&rsquo;t have enough ports. I still wish for more built into the Mac itself. (Recent MacBook Pros are down from 4 ports to 3.)<\/p>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/07\/02\/macos-tahoe-drops-firewire-support\/\">macOS Tahoe Drops FireWire Support<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/10\/30\/macbook-pro-2024\/\">MacBook Pro 2024<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/04\/28\/belkin-connect-usb-c-hub\/\">Belkin Connect USB-C Hub<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/08\/15\/qgeem-and-hyper-thunderbolt-4-hubs\/\">QGeeM and Hyper Thunderbolt 4 Hubs<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/05\/11\/usb-c-hubs-breaking-ethernet-networks\/\">USB-C Hubs Breaking Ethernet Networks<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/04\/18\/owc-ministack-stx\/\">OWC miniStack STX<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/12\/01\/thunderbolt-4-docks\/\">Thunderbolt 4 Docks<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/07\/27\/usb-c-is-still-a-mess\/\">USB-C Is Still a Mess<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2017\/10\/14\/the-impossible-dream-of-usb-c\/\">The Impossible Dream of USB-C<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2017\/07\/28\/arc-hub-usb-c-adapter\/\">Arc Hub USB-C Adapter<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dennis Schubert (2021, via Hacker News): I have one of those laptops lacking a lot of accessory ports. In fact, I&rsquo;m writing this on an Apple MacBook Pro, and all I got was four lousy USB-C ports. If I want to connect pretty much anything, I need some sort of adapter or some sort of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2025-07-21T19:46:14Z","apple_news_api_id":"022d7763-7b3a-4c3a-910e-da1787d58014","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2025-07-21T19:46:14Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAD\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/w==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/AAi13Y3s6TDqRDtoXh9WAFA","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[452,30,100,2182,201,175,1154],"class_list":["post-48555","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-hardware","tag-mac","tag-macbookpro","tag-studio-display","tag-thunderbolt","tag-usb","tag-usb-c"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48555","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=48555"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48555\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":48556,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48555\/revisions\/48556"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=48555"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=48555"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=48555"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}