{"id":48315,"date":"2025-07-02T16:17:39","date_gmt":"2025-07-02T20:17:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=48315"},"modified":"2025-07-04T15:50:10","modified_gmt":"2025-07-04T19:50:10","slug":"macos-tahoe-drops-firewire-support","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/07\/02\/macos-tahoe-drops-firewire-support\/","title":{"rendered":"macOS Tahoe Drops FireWire Support"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2025\/06\/19\/macos-tahoe-beta-drops-firewire-support\/\">Joe Rossignol<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2025\/06\/19\/macos-tahoe-beta-drops-firewire-support\/\">\n<p>The first macOS Tahoe developer beta does not support the legacy FireWire 400 and FireWire 800 data-transfer standards, according to <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/NekoMichiUBC\/status\/1932876748661608561\">@NekoMichi on X<\/a>, and a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/MacOS\/comments\/1l7gb1r\/macos_tahoe_dp1_seems_remove_firewire_800_support\/\">Reddit post<\/a>. As a result, the first few iPod models and old external storage drives that rely on FireWire cannot be synced with or mounted on a Mac running the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/how-to\/install-macos-tahoe-developer-beta\/\">macOS Tahoe beta<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Unlike on macOS Sequoia and earlier versions, the first macOS Tahoe beta does not include a FireWire section in the System Settings app.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>I&rsquo;ve seen reports that FireWire support has <a href=\"https:\/\/discussions.apple.com\/thread\/253775858\">been<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/discussions.apple.com\/thread\/253752515\">partially<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/discussions.apple.com\/thread\/253766277\">broken<\/a> since macOS 12.3, anyway.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lowendmac.com\/2025\/farewell-firewire-macos-tahoe-drops-support\/\">Mark Sokolovsky<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/lowendmac.com\/2025\/farewell-firewire-macos-tahoe-drops-support\/\">\n<p>Take a fine comb and look through the latest developer beta, tell me if you find any mention of FireWire anywhere &#x2013; not even System Profiler has it anymore. They&rsquo;re <a href=\"https:\/\/appleinsider.com\/articles\/25\/06\/19\/firewire-may-finally-be-dead-in-macos-26-apple-isnt-looking-back?fbclid=IwY2xjawLBsdJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFxQ0dNbjZuc05vQW53enk1AR5T7opJgLw7CshNInK93Nl7slbKsuP4HKdvt-dLE8GdjlDzhfkG9QQ8tYVICw_aem_Fpb9mOjGdW3u1IKV4zQQsw\">saying on AppleInsider<\/a> that even with a Thunderbolt Dock, it won&rsquo;t let you connect any FW device to macOS.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Macs started carrying <a href=\"https:\/\/lowendmac.com\/1998\/introduction-to-firewire\/\">FireWire<\/a> as early as 1997 as a BTO\/CTO option, however, was not included onboard on any model until 1999. Even then, not all models carried it. The <a href=\"https:\/\/lowendmac.com\/2012\/13-in-macbook-pro-mid-2012\/\">mid-2012 13&#x2033; non-retina MacBook Pro<\/a> was the last model Mac to carry any sort of FireWire port.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>USB continues to improve, but I just don&rsquo;t think it&rsquo;s ever been as reliable as FireWire was.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@jackwellborn\/114779607012610148\">Jack Wellborn<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@jackwellborn\/114779607012610148\">\n<p>In honor of FireWire support presumably going away in macOS Tahoe, here&rsquo;s pictures from when I connected my original iPod to my M1 MacBook Pro.<\/p>\n<p>MacBook Pro to <br \/>\nThunderbolt 3 to 2 adapter to<br \/>\nThunderbolt 2 cable to<br \/>\nThunderbolt 2 to FireWire 2 adapter to<br \/>\nFirewire 2 cable to<br \/>\nExternal HD with FireWire 2 and FireWire 1 ports to<br \/>\nFireWire 1 cable to<br \/>\niPod<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/06\/24\/macos-tahoe-26-developer-beta-2\/\">macOS Tahoe 26 Developer Beta 2<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/06\/10\/macos-tahoe-26-announced\/\">macOS Tahoe 26 Announced<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2017\/06\/22\/the-tragedy-of-firewire\/\">The Tragedy of FireWire<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2012\/11\/02\/thunderbolt-to-firewire-adapter\/\">Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"macos-tahoe-drops-firewire-support-update-2025-07-04\">Update (<a href=\"#macos-tahoe-drops-firewire-support-update-2025-07-04\">2025-07-04<\/a>): <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/galooticus\/status\/1940532712848478502\">Adam Maxwell<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/x.com\/galooticus\/status\/1940532712848478502\"><p>Wow, that&rsquo;s the end of an era. I bought FW drives as long as I was able, as it seemed like performance and reliability was always better. FW &gt; Ethernet &gt; USB &gt; WiFi &gt; Bluetooth in my unscientific aggregate of performance and reliability.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@leebennett\/114791891215617628\">Lee Bennett<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@leebennett\/114791891215617628\"><p>I guess I&rsquo;m gonna have to keep an older Mac &amp; OS around coz I still periodically <a href=\"https:\/\/flic.kr\/p\/2qrxhUw\">use a FireWire bridge to capture VHS tapes<\/a>.<\/p><\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Joe Rossignol: The first macOS Tahoe developer beta does not support the legacy FireWire 400 and FireWire 800 data-transfer standards, according to @NekoMichi on X, and a Reddit post. As a result, the first few iPod models and old external storage drives that rely on FireWire cannot be synced with or mounted on a Mac [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2025-07-02T20:17:42Z","apple_news_api_id":"7cd4fbe5-fe44-420c-a34f-211138361f25","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2025-07-04T19:50:13Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/AfNT75f5EQgyjTyERODYfJQ","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[90,202,792,30,2077,2742,1451,201],"class_list":["post-48315","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-cable","tag-firewire","tag-ipod","tag-mac","tag-macos-12","tag-macos-tahoe-26","tag-sunset","tag-thunderbolt"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48315","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=48315"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48315\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":48350,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48315\/revisions\/48350"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=48315"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=48315"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=48315"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}