{"id":47136,"date":"2025-03-19T15:17:52","date_gmt":"2025-03-19T19:17:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=47136"},"modified":"2025-03-24T15:24:30","modified_gmt":"2025-03-24T19:24:30","slug":"apple-restricts-pebble-from-being-awesome-with-iphones","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/03\/19\/apple-restricts-pebble-from-being-awesome-with-iphones\/","title":{"rendered":"Apple Restricts Pebble From Being Awesome With iPhones"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ericmigi.com\/blog\/apple-restricts-pebble-from-being-awesome-with-iphones\">Eric Migicovsky<\/a> (via <a href=\"https:\/\/mas.to\/@carnage4life\/114186470843799866\">Dare Obasanjo<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=43401245\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/ericmigi.com\/blog\/apple-restricts-pebble-from-being-awesome-with-iphones\">\n<p>During Pebble v1, I learned how much harder it is to build a great smartwatch experience on iPhone than it is on Android. It sounds like things have actually gotten worse over the last 8 years.<\/p>\n<p>I want to set expectations accordingly. We will build a good app for iOS, but be prepared - there is no way for us to support all the functionality that Apple Watch has access to. It&rsquo;s impossible for a 3rd party smartwatch to send text messages, or perform actions on notifications (like dismissing, muting, replying) and many, many other things.<\/p>\n<p>Here are the things that are harder or impossible for 3rd party smartwatches (ie non Apple Watches) to do on iPhone[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Apple closed off the ability of smartwatches after Pebble to negotiate with carriers to provide messaging services, and now requires users to turn off iMessage (disabling iOS&rsquo;s core messaging platform) if they want to take advantage of such contracts between a third-party smartwatch maker and cellular carriers.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Recall that, in addition to restricting the actual integration between Pebble and iPhones, Apple <a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2015\/04\/24\/mentioning-pebble-in-the-app-store\/\">rejected<\/a> third-party iPhone apps from the App Store for mentioning that they were compatible with Pebble watches.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.macstories.net\/linked\/pebbles-inherent-disadvantages-on-the-iphone\/\">John Voorhees<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.macstories.net\/linked\/pebbles-inherent-disadvantages-on-the-iphone\/\">\n<p>The Apple Watch is great. There isn&rsquo;t another smartwatch that I&rsquo;ve even been tempted to try in recent years, but is that because no one has been able to make a good alternative or hasn&rsquo;t because the disadvantages third-party wearables face are too great?<\/p>\n<p>I&rsquo;d like to see Apple focus on finding ways to better integrate other devices with the iPhone. There are undoubtedly security and privacy issues that need to be carefully considered, but figuring those things out should be a priority because choice and competition are better for Apple&rsquo;s customers in the long run.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Have we gotten to the point yet where it&rsquo;s quaint to argue that Apple should do something because it&rsquo;s better for <em>customers<\/em>? In what universe would they choose to better integrate with third-party hardware (thus helping either a small startup or Google\/Samsung) when they&rsquo;ll <a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/03\/14\/dma-compliance-default-maps-app-in-eu\/\">hide<\/a> the default maps app setting if you live in the wrong country?<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/iosdev.space\/@adam\/114189736908867713\">Adam Overholtzer<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/iosdev.space\/@adam\/114189736908867713\">\n<p>Would those first few versions of Apple Watch have driven Pebble and FitBit out of the market without Apple&rsquo;s lock-in? I think the Watch&rsquo;s later success has made folks forget what a product design misfire that first Watch was.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ericmigi.com\/blog\/introducing-two-new-pebbleos-watches\">Eric Migicovsky<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/ericmigi.com\/blog\/introducing-two-new-pebbleos-watches\">\n<p>We&rsquo;re excited to announce two new smartwatches that run open source PebbleOS and are compatible with thousands of your beloved Pebble apps. <\/p><ul><li><strong>Core 2<\/strong> <strong>Duo<\/strong> has an ultra crisp black and white display, polycarbonate frame, costs $149 and starts shipping in July.<\/li><li><strong>Core Time 2<\/strong> has a larger 64-colour display, metal frame, costs $225 and starts shipping in December.<\/li><\/ul><p><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/taoofmac.com\/space\/links\/2025\/03\/18\/1700\">Rui Carmo<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/taoofmac.com\/space\/links\/2025\/03\/18\/1700\">\n<p>I love these, and reading past the watch specs it&rsquo;s clear that the project is driven by personal passion more than commercial polish, with the reasoning behind each design choice &#x2013; from sensor selections to display trade-offs &#x2013; in a refreshingly candid manner.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/toot.iamkonstantin.eu\/@konstantin\/114189791270305606\">Konstantin<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/toot.iamkonstantin.eu\/@konstantin\/114189791270305606\">\n<p>These cute little pebbles have 30 day battery life!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@roryprior\/114190238151576843\">Rory Prior<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@roryprior\/114190238151576843\">\n<p>I loved my Pebbles and backed a couple of them on Kickstarter. I&rsquo;m an Apple Watch convert now but the idea of a 30 day battery life sure is tempting as daily charging is a pain. PebbleOS was\/is lovely too<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/03\/19\/dma-compliance-watch-and-headphone-interoperability\/\">DMA Compliance: Watch and Headphone Interoperability<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/03\/14\/dma-compliance-default-maps-app-in-eu\/\">DMA Compliance: Default Maps App in EU<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/03\/14\/app-review-never-change\/\">App Review, Never Change<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/01\/29\/google-open-sources-pebbleos\/\">Google Open Sources PebbleOS<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/05\/29\/can-anyone-but-a-tech-giant-build-the-next-big-thing\/\">Can Anyone But a Tech Giant Build the Next Big Thing?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/05\/02\/success-and-failure-at-pebble\/\">Success and Failure at Pebble<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2015\/04\/24\/mentioning-pebble-in-the-app-store\/\">Mentioning Pebble in the App Store<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"apple-restricts-pebble-from-being-awesome-with-iphones-update-2025-03-24\">Update (2025-03-24): <a href=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2025\/03\/19\/repebble-watches\">John Gruber<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2025\/03\/19\/repebble-watches\">\n<p>If the experience as a Pebble owner can be a lot better paired with an Android phone than an iPhone, lean into that. Show how much better it is on Android than iOS.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Eric Migicovsky (via Dare Obasanjo, Hacker News): During Pebble v1, I learned how much harder it is to build a great smartwatch experience on iPhone than it is on Android. It sounds like things have actually gotten worse over the last 8 years. I want to set expectations accordingly. 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