{"id":45466,"date":"2024-10-22T14:01:46","date_gmt":"2024-10-22T18:01:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=45466"},"modified":"2025-02-16T17:06:02","modified_gmt":"2025-02-16T22:06:02","slug":"time-machine-in-sequoia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/10\/22\/time-machine-in-sequoia\/","title":{"rendered":"Time Machine in Sequoia"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/layer8.space\/@teilweise\/113303989061227264\">Der Teilweise<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/layer8.space\/@teilweise\/113303989061227264\">\n<p>Backing up to a NAS currently says 3 days (!) left, after having backed up ~160GB.\nWas using WiFi with TX rate 133MBit.<\/p>\n<p>Now I connected using Gigabit Ethernet, does not seem to be faster.<\/p>\n<p>Plus: CPU usage is ridiculously high, fans spinning up to medium\/max speed several times per hour.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>I did not change <em>all<\/em> files on my disk &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Maybe they removed the alert that was shown when the backup got corrupted? Seems to be the case because I did not get that alert and all my old backups (on the NAS) seem to be gone.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>So it seems like Apple indeed removed the confirmation dialog that they showed when they delete corrupted backups, taking away the chance to manually repair it.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>I wonder whether this happened pre-Sequoia? Even on Sonoma, I would regularly have Time Machine backups where I would imagine that less than 50 GB changed, but it took all day to back up to a local hard drive. (Yet it wasn&rsquo;t so slow that it seemed to be starting from scratch.) I wish Time Machine were better at showing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/MacOS\/comments\/1c8wr5v\/how_to_see_list_of_changed_files_that_time\/\">which files are being copied<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/MacOS\/comments\/1cbg3h8\/is_there_an_easy_way_to_see_what_is_taking_up\/\">how the space is being used<\/a>. (I guess some of this can be figured out using <a href=\"https:\/\/www.soma-zone.com\/BackupLoupe\/\">BackupLoupe<\/a>.)<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@arroz\/113299289655379577\">Miguel Arroz<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@arroz\/113299289655379577\"><p>There&rsquo;s some annoying bug in Sequoia that makes a Time Machine backup fail with an error &ldquo;The backup failed because some files were not available&rdquo;.<\/p><p>How on earth can files &ldquo;not be available&rdquo; on something running locally? And whatever it is, why isn&rsquo;t Time Machine dealing with it properly? It&rsquo;s all made by the same company. And it had all night to do whatever it has to.<\/p><p>I needed to have a current backup fresh in the morning, and now I&rsquo;m sitting here waiting.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/layer8.space\/@teilweise\/113299936449644647\">Der Teilweise<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/layer8.space\/@teilweise\/113299936449644647\"><p> I wouldn&rsquo;t be surprised if the <code>opendir<\/code> bug <a href=\"https:\/\/techhub.social\/@cdfinder\/113266782098717581\">described by @cdfinder<\/a> is a race condition that also happens (more rarely) for local filesystems.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/09\/16\/macos-15-sequoia\/\">macOS 15 Sequoia<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/08\/02\/snapshots-arent-backups\/\">Snapshots Aren&rsquo;t Backups<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/10\/23\/sonoma-icloud-drive-and-time-machine\/\">Sonoma, iCloud Drive, and Time Machine<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/03\/13\/ventura-time-machine-backups-and-the-apfs-uncertainty-principle\/\">Ventura Time Machine Backups and the APFS Uncertainty Principle<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/11\/09\/disk-utility-and-time-machine-in-ventura\/\">Disk Utility and Time Machine in Ventura<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/02\/21\/network-time-machine-backups\/\">Network Time Machine Backups<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/01\/10\/has-time-machine-slowed-for-small-files\/\">Has Time Machine Slowed for Small Files?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/05\/18\/time-machine-evolution-and-apfs\/\">Time Machine Evolution and APFS<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"time-machine-in-sequoia-update-2024-10-23\">Update (2024-10-23): <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@AdamChandler@masto.adamchandler.me\/113352395575560042\">Adam Chandler<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@AdamChandler@masto.adamchandler.me\/113352395575560042\"><p>I recently had Time Machine issues on Developer beta where I wasn&rsquo;t getting successful backups. I tried everything and finally disabling the MacOS Firewall fixed it for me.<\/p><p>MBP wired Ethernet to Synology using SMB on x.1 developer beta.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@globex\/113352482595673817\">Kurt<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@globex\/113352482595673817\">\n<p>I don&rsquo;t use my MacBook Pro (M1 Max running Sequoia) daily, but last night I went to use it and it was warm to the touch and the fans were at full blast. The process &ldquo;diskimagesiod&rdquo; was using 800% CPU. I also get the &ldquo;files were not available&rdquo; all the time with Time Machine. Super annoying.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/howardnoakley\/status\/1848788188439187957\">Howard Oakley<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/x.com\/howardnoakley\/status\/1848788188439187957\">\n<p>You can see files and progress in the log, easily accessible from <a href=\"https:\/\/eclecticlight.co\/consolation-t2m2-and-log-utilities\/\">T2M2<\/a>&rsquo;s Speed button during a backup.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/09\/18\/macos-firewall-regressions-in-sequoia\/\">macOS Firewall Regressions in Sequoia<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"time-machine-in-sequoia-update-2024-11-22\">Update (2024-11-22): <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@mjtsai\/113523971786142200\">I<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@arroz\/113525537682859103\">and<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@twinpeaks_sf\/113524041272423746\">others<\/a> have been having problems with Time Machine in Sequoia, where it&rsquo;s copying files that don&rsquo;t need to be copied, leading to unnecessary pruning of old backups. However, sometimes it gets wedged so that it can&rsquo;t prune old snapshots and just reports that the backup failed. After restarting the Mac, it&rsquo;s able to prune the snapshots again, though Disk Utility can&rsquo;t show them.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@arroz\/113525550257429691\">Miguel Arroz<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@arroz\/113525550257429691\"><p>Another thing that broke in 15.1 is ejecting disks now fails often because mds indexer holds a file open in them and just won&rsquo;t let go. I keen to kill mds before ejecting the disks successfully. Fails on two Macs, both with Time Machine spinning disks and SSDs.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"time-machine-in-sequoia-update-2024-12-02\">Update (2024-12-02): <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@jsq\/113567550689210154\">Jesse Squires<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@jsq\/113567550689210154\"><p>Seems like Apple broke Time Machine in macOS 15 Sequoia <a href=\"https:\/\/discussions.apple.com\/thread\/255782825?sortBy=rank\">because Time Machine doesn&rsquo;t have Full Disk Access<\/a> (or some other security theater permissions).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I am not seeing this particular problem.<\/p>\n\n<p id=\"time-machine-in-sequoia-update-2024-12-19\">Update (2024-12-19): <a href=\"https:\/\/eclecticlight.co\/2024\/12\/18\/is-it-worth-storing-time-machine-backups-on-a-faster-drive\/\">Howard Oakley<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/eclecticlight.co\/2024\/12\/18\/is-it-worth-storing-time-machine-backups-on-a-faster-drive\/\">\n<p>First full backups to SSD appear to run at higher priority to allow them to complete more quickly.<\/p>\n<p>As a result, effective write speeds to SSDs during Time Machine backups are significantly faster than could be achieved to hard disks.<\/p>\n<p>When the consequences of using APFS on hard disks are taken into account, storing Time Machine backups on SSD has considerable advantages in terms of both speed and longevity.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>macOS 15.2 seems to introduce new problems, for both <a href=\"https:\/\/talk.tidbits.com\/t\/macos-15-2-sequoia-breaks-bootable-backups-in-superduper\/29742\/7?u=mjtsai\">Time Machine<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/12\/16\/macos-15-2-breaks-bootable-backups\/\">asr<\/a> backups.<\/p>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/12\/16\/macos-15-2-breaks-bootable-backups\/\">macOS 15.2 Breaks Bootable Backups<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"time-machine-in-sequoia-update-2025-01-10\">Update (2025-01-10): I continue to have problems with Time Machine on Sequoia. I rotated to a different Time Machine backup, which had roughly 2 TB more free space than needed for my backup. Time Machine proceeded to delete all my snapshots going back a year, re-copy all the files, and then report that there wasn&rsquo;t enough space to complete one backup. This took several days. Eventually I had to reformat the drive and let it back up from scratch, which again took several days. The amount of data is roughly the same as in recent years, where it never took this long.<\/p>\n\n<p id=\"time-machine-in-sequoia-update-2025-02-14\">Update (2025-02-14): <a href=\"https:\/\/eclecticlight.co\/2025\/02\/14\/watch-your-background-automatic-time-machine-backups\/\">Howard Oakley<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/eclecticlight.co\/2025\/02\/14\/watch-your-background-automatic-time-machine-backups\/\">\n<p>New in Sequoia is this twice re-scheduling of the next automatic backup, first for 30 minutes later, then for the full hour. Previously, the first re-scheduling was for 60 minutes and there was no change made when the backup had completed. Presumably this is considered to be more reliable than in Sonoma and earlier.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"time-machine-in-sequoia-update-2025-02-16\">Update (2025-02-16): <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@janl@narrativ.es\/114007718068064763\">Jan Lehnardt<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@janl@narrativ.es\/114007718068064763\">\n<p>Oh heck yeah, #macOS 15.3 finally fixes the take-fresh-Time-Machine-Backup-to-Network-Volume bug that existed since 15.0.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2025\/01\/27\/macos-15-3\/\">macOS 15.3<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Der Teilweise: Backing up to a NAS currently says 3 days (!) left, after having backed up ~160GB. Was using WiFi with TX rate 133MBit. Now I connected using Gigabit Ethernet, does not seem to be faster. Plus: CPU usage is ridiculously high, fans spinning up to medium\/max speed several times per hour. 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