{"id":44690,"date":"2024-09-02T16:14:04","date_gmt":"2024-09-02T20:14:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=44690"},"modified":"2024-09-02T16:14:04","modified_gmt":"2024-09-02T20:14:04","slug":"the-apple-iigs-megahertz-myth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/09\/02\/the-apple-iigs-megahertz-myth\/","title":{"rendered":"The Apple IIGS Megahertz Myth"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.userlandia.com\/home\/iigs-mhz-myth\">Dan Vincent<\/a> (via <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=41268256\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.userlandia.com\/home\/iigs-mhz-myth\"><p>The Apple II and Commodore 64 with their 6502 and 6510 CPUs clocked at 1 MHz could trade blows with Z80 powered computers running at three times the clock speed. And the IIGS had the 6502&rsquo;s 16-bit descendant: the 65C816. Steve Wozniak thought Western Design Center had something special with that chip. <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/BYTE_Vol_10-01_1985-01_Through_The_Hourglass\/page\/166\/mode\/2up\">In a famous interview in the January 1985 issue of Byte magazine<\/a>, Woz said,<\/p><blockquote><p>&ldquo;[the 65816] should be available soon in an 8 MHz version that will beat the pants off the 68000 in most applications, and in graphics applications it comes pretty close.&rdquo; End quote. That&rsquo;s already high praise, but he continues further: &ldquo;An 8 MHz 65816 is about equivalent to a 16 MHz 68000 in speed, and a 16 MHz 68000 doesn&rsquo;t exist.&rdquo;<\/p><\/blockquote><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>But that &ldquo;should&rdquo; in &ldquo;should be available&rdquo; was doing a lot of work. <a href=\"https:\/\/mirrors.apple2.org.za\/ftp.apple.asimov.net\/documentation\/magazines\/aplus\/A%2B%201986-11.pdf\">Eighteen months later when the IIGS finally shipped, there was no 8 MHz &lsquo;816.<\/a> It was as nonexistent as Woz&rsquo;s imaginary 16MHz 68000. 8MHz chips were barely available three years later. What happened?<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>So why were IIGSes with chips rated at 4 MHz not running them at that speed? Why 2.8 MHz? Isn&rsquo;t that&#8230;  weirdly specific? Did an 8 MHz machine really get put on ice due to executive meddling? To solve these mysteries I descended into the depths of Usenet, usergroup newsletters, magazines, and interviews. My journey took me through a world of development Hell, problematic yields, and CPU cycle quirks.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/groups.google.com\/g\/comp.sys.apple\/c\/RH1-BNz8x-c\/m\/385dAOKgaA4J\">Dave Haynie<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/groups.google.com\/g\/comp.sys.apple\/c\/RH1-BNz8x-c\/m\/385dAOKgaA4J\"><p>Way back in &rsquo;85, a 4MHz &rsquo;816 cost noticably more than\nan 8MHz 68000. Things are going to be even more skewed now.<\/p><\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dan Vincent (via Hacker News): The Apple II and Commodore 64 with their 6502 and 6510 CPUs clocked at 1 MHz could trade blows with Z80 powered computers running at three times the clock speed. And the IIGS had the 6502&rsquo;s 16-bit descendant: the 65C816. Steve Wozniak thought Western Design Center had something special with [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2024-09-02T20:14:07Z","apple_news_api_id":"54a70c25-0b04-423a-b3d0-f668a581ebae","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2024-09-02T20:14:07Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAD\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/w==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/AVKcMJQsEQjqz0PZopYHrrg","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[401,406,2639,295,30,260,779,1535],"class_list":["post-44690","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-680x0","tag-appleii","tag-apple-iigs","tag-history","tag-mac","tag-processors","tag-steve-wozniak","tag-tony-fadell"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44690","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=44690"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44690\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":44691,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44690\/revisions\/44691"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=44690"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=44690"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=44690"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}