{"id":43952,"date":"2024-07-03T17:10:06","date_gmt":"2024-07-03T21:10:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=43952"},"modified":"2024-07-04T14:50:14","modified_gmt":"2024-07-04T18:50:14","slug":"deleting-messages-attachments-everywhere","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/07\/03\/deleting-messages-attachments-everywhere\/","title":{"rendered":"Deleting Messages Attachments Everywhere"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1808232172140351560\">Ryan Jones<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/x.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1808232172140351560\"><p>Deleting any iMessage media from your <em>device storage<\/em> (i.e. Mac or iPhone) also deletes it <em>from the cloud<\/em> forever.<\/p><p>Even when:<\/p><ul><li>Messages in the Cloud is On<\/li><li>Keep Messages is Forever<\/li><li>You&rsquo;re in local storage management<\/li><\/ul><p>Apple you gotta clarify these message boxes big time!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The other parts of <strong>System Settings &#x2023; General &#x2023; Storage<\/strong> are about freeing up <em>local<\/em> storage on your Mac, so you might think that deleting messages attachments would only delete them locally. This would be really useful because there&rsquo;s no other obvious way of purging the device&rsquo;s cache to free up space. The confirmation sheet reinforces this belief by showing an icon of a hard drive and telling you how much storage will be freed. Instead, what you&rsquo;d think would just evict the files actually deletes them from the cloud and all devices.<\/p>\n<p>This is <a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/06\/22\/limiting-imessages-disk-usage\/\">not the first<\/a> confusion of this kind: the <strong>Keep messages<\/strong> setting in Messages also looks like it might refer to the device, but it actually deletes the messages everywhere. You can have one device set to keep <strong>Forever<\/strong>, but it will not actually do that if another device is set to a shorter amount of time.<\/p>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/06\/22\/limiting-imessages-disk-usage\/\">Limiting iMessage&rsquo;s Disk Usage<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/10\/01\/ios-15-messages-bug-deletes-saved-photos\/\">iOS 15 Messages Bug Deletes Saved Photos<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"deleting-messages-attachments-everywhere-update-2024-07-04\">Update (2024-07-04): <a href=\"https:\/\/appdot.net\/@jgordon\/112728942922506756\">John Gordon<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/appdot.net\/@jgordon\/112728942922506756\"><p>I&rsquo;ve been playing with deleting individual messages in iMessage and seeing what happens on different clients. Wow. It&rsquo;s kind of a mess. Definitely don&rsquo;t assume a particular message is always deleted across all devices -- even if&rsquo;s reported deleted everywhere.<\/p><\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ryan Jones: Deleting any iMessage media from your device storage (i.e. Mac or iPhone) also deletes it from the cloud forever.Even when:Messages in the Cloud is OnKeep Messages is ForeverYou&rsquo;re in local storage managementApple you gotta clarify these message boxes big time! The other parts of System Settings &#x2023; General &#x2023; Storage are about freeing [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2024-07-03T21:10:09Z","apple_news_api_id":"61ac727b-9a37-4547-804c-6076dfa8de20","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2024-07-04T18:50:17Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQ==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/AYaxye5o3RUeATGB236jeIA","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[1016,77,31,2321,30,2385,2237,141,1181],"class_list":["post-43952","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-datacide","tag-design","tag-ios","tag-ios-17","tag-mac","tag-macos-14-sonoma","tag-messages-in-icloud","tag-messages","tag-system-preferences"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43952","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=43952"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43952\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":43956,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43952\/revisions\/43956"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=43952"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=43952"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=43952"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}