{"id":43939,"date":"2024-07-02T17:15:20","date_gmt":"2024-07-02T21:15:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=43939"},"modified":"2024-07-09T15:34:18","modified_gmt":"2024-07-09T19:34:18","slug":"figma-ai","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/07\/02\/figma-ai\/","title":{"rendered":"Figma AI"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.404media.co\/figma-disables-ai-app-design-tool-after-it-copied-apples-weather-app\/\">Emanuel Maiberg<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/asallen\/status\/1807675146020454808\">tweet<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=40857369\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.404media.co\/figma-disables-ai-app-design-tool-after-it-copied-apples-weather-app\/\">\n<p>The design tool Figma has disabled a newly launched AI-powered app design tool after a user showed that it was clearly copying Apple&rsquo;s weather app.<\/p>\n<p>Figma disabled the feature, named Make Design, after CEO and cofounder of Not Boring Software Andy Allen tweeted images showing that asking it to make a &ldquo;weather app&rdquo; produced several variations of apps that looked almost identical to Apple&rsquo;s default weather app.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/gleb_sexy\/status\/1807757536306594270\">Gleb Sabirzyanov<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/x.com\/gleb_sexy\/status\/1807757536306594270\"><p>So there is no &ldquo;training&rdquo; in the components part at all. It uses pre-defined components that Figma team designed. They made complete apps with designs based on existing apps: weather, fitness, etc. If you ask the AI to create a weather app, it would use the weather app components.<\/p><p>It can&rsquo;t modify components in any way other than changing texts, images and style. They only made the model fill the contents for existing pre-defined components.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2024\/07\/01\/figma-ai-ripoff-engine\">John Gruber<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2024\/07\/01\/figma-ai-ripoff-engine\">\n<p>This is even more disgraceful than a human rip-off. Figma knows what they trained this thing on, and they know what it outputs.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@sdw\/112718166344779746\">Sebastiaan de With<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@sdw\/112718166344779746\">\n<p>It just blows my mind how much companies keep self-owning because they think they risk anything being &lsquo;too slow&rsquo; in adopting AI. All the fast AI implementations have been bad. Google answers. MS Recall. This Figma AI thing.<\/p>\n<p>Take your time to do it right the first time.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/MitchBernstein\/status\/1807404603518128348\">Mitchell Bernstein<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/x.com\/MitchBernstein\/status\/1807404603518128348\"><p>No company, in their right mind, would ever let their employees unknowingly design proprietary ideas in \n@figma\n and send those to a server for others to recreate. [&#8230;] I&rsquo;ve heard mixed but I believe it&rsquo;s by default opt in for free users and by default opt out for enterprises.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/pxlnv.com\/linklog\/figma-apple-weather-ai\/\">Nick Heer<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/pxlnv.com\/linklog\/figma-apple-weather-ai\/\">\n<p>It is consistent to view this clear duplication of existing works through the same lens of morality as when A.I. tools <a href=\"https:\/\/hls.harvard.edu\/today\/does-chatgpt-violate-new-york-times-copyrights\/\">duplicate articles<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/news\/rcna131995\">specific artists<\/a>. I have not seen a good explanation for why any of these should be viewed differently from the others. There are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everythingisaremix.info\/watch-the-series\">compelling reasons<\/a> for why it is okay to copy the works of others, just as there are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macstories.net\/stories\/ai-companies-need-to-be-regulated-an-open-letter-to-the-u-s-congress-and-european-parliament\/\">similarly great arguments<\/a> for why it is not.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.macstories.net\/stories\/ai-companies-need-to-be-regulated-an-open-letter-to-the-u-s-congress-and-european-parliament\/\">Federico Viticci<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.macstories.net\/stories\/ai-companies-need-to-be-regulated-an-open-letter-to-the-u-s-congress-and-european-parliament\/\">\n<p>In other words, we&rsquo;re concerned that, this time, technology won&rsquo;t open up new opportunities for creative people on the web. We fear that it&rsquo;ll destroy them.<\/p>\n<p>We want to do something about this. And we&rsquo;re starting with an open letter, embedded below, that we&rsquo;re sending on behalf of MacStories, Inc. to U.S. Senators who have sponsored AI legislation as well as Italian members of the E.U.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/sdw.space\/figma-ai-and-lost-jobs\/\">Sebastiaan de With<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@sdw\/112718127100980535\">Mastodon<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/sdw.space\/figma-ai-and-lost-jobs\/\">\n<p>Some career designers were ambiguous about the impact on careers, but many went as far as to assert that designers had nothing to fear: AI, after all, could never replace your job. <em>Unless you were terrible at it.<\/em><\/p><p>The problem with that, however, is that in our creative fields by definition, we are all <em>terrible<\/em> at our work at some point. <\/p><p>The way anyone has achieved success is through a slog. A long, steady swim upstream in a relentless and never-ending yet plentiful river of unpaid or cheap small jobs. I would wager the vast majority of design done every day are exactly these jobs. <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/07\/01\/microsofts-suleyman-on-ai-scraping\/\">Microsoft&rsquo;s Suleyman on AI Scraping<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/06\/19\/apple-intelligence-training\/\">Apple Intelligence Training<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/06\/06\/updated-adobe-terms-of-use\/\">Updated Adobe Terms of Use<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"figma-ai-update-2024-07-03\">Update (2024-07-03): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2024\/7\/2\/24190823\/figma-ai-tool-apple-weather-app-copy\">Jay Peters<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2024\/7\/2\/24190823\/figma-ai-tool-apple-weather-app-copy\">\n<p>In a Tuesday interview with Figma CTO Kris Rasmussen, I asked him point blank if Make Designs was trained on Apple&rsquo;s app designs. His response? He couldn&rsquo;t say for sure. Figma was not responsible for training the AI models it used at all.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;We did no training as part of the generative AI features,&rdquo; Rasmussen said. The features are &ldquo;powered by off-the-shelf models and a bespoke design system that we commissioned, which appears to be the underlying issue.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Out of their control, just like with Perplexity.<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2024\/7\/2\/24190823\/figma-ai-tool-apple-weather-app-copy\">\n<p>Field, in his own thread, <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/zoink\/status\/1808045655082033483\">said that<\/a> the Make Designs feature &ldquo;is not trained on Figma content, community files or app designs&rdquo; and noted that &ldquo;the accusations around data training in this tweet are false.&rdquo; He said a problem with the company&rsquo;s approach is that &ldquo;<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/zoink\/status\/1808045658194301298\">variability is too low<\/a>.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>The key AI models that power Make Designs are OpenAI&rsquo;s GPT-4o and Amazon&rsquo;s Titan Image Generator G1, according to Rasmussen. If it&rsquo;s true that Figma didn&rsquo;t train its AI tools but they&rsquo;re spitting out Apple app lookalikes anyway, that could suggest that OpenAI or Amazon&rsquo;s models were trained on Apple&rsquo;s designs.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>This seems to contradict what Sabirzyanov wrote (above).<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2024\/07\/02\/figma-disables-its-ai-design-feature-that-appeared-to-be-ripping-off-apples-weather-app\/\">Sarah Perez<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2024\/07\/02\/figma-disables-its-ai-design-feature-that-appeared-to-be-ripping-off-apples-weather-app\/\"><p>Figma CEO Dylan Field says the company will <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/zoink\/status\/1808045655082033483\">temporarily disable its &ldquo;Make Design&rdquo; AI feature<\/a> that was said to be ripping off the designs of Apple&rsquo;s own Weather app.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2024\/07\/02\/figma-disables-make-design\">John Gruber<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2024\/07\/02\/figma-disables-make-design\">\n<p>Field is right to pull the feature but <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/zoink\/status\/1808045655082033483\">this explanation<\/a> is sophistry. The feature is clearly fundamentally flawed. It&rsquo;s not in need of a tweak. It&rsquo;s in need of being completely scrapped.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"figma-ai-update-2024-07-09\">Update (2024-07-09): <a href=\"https:\/\/tidbits.com\/2024\/07\/08\/why-ai-web-scraping-mostly-doesnt-bother-me\/\">Adam Engst<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/tidbits.com\/2024\/07\/08\/why-ai-web-scraping-mostly-doesnt-bother-me\/\">\n<p>I&rsquo;m just not that bothered by all this. My overall opinions aren&rsquo;t usually so divergent from my tech journalism peers, but since no one seems to be acknowledging that there are multiple sides to every issue, I want to explain why I&rsquo;m largely unperturbed by AI and much of the hand-wringing that seems to permeate coverage of the field.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Many people seem to be worried that AI-generated content will &ldquo;replace or diminish the source material from which it was created,&rdquo; as the MacStories letter says. It&rsquo;s unclear to me what would need to happen for this to be true, at least for genuinely original content. When I write about one of my tech experiences, the only place such a story can come from is my head. I fail to see how my creativity would be diminished by what others do.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Web publishing requires constantly creating new content&mdash;that&rsquo;s what real people want to read, and while generative AI may make it somewhat quicker to do that, it&rsquo;s not drastically different from how some websites hire low-paid workers in other countries to churn out unoriginal posts.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Emanuel Maiberg (tweet, Hacker News): The design tool Figma has disabled a newly launched AI-powered app design tool after a user showed that it was clearly copying Apple&rsquo;s weather app. Figma disabled the feature, named Make Design, after CEO and cofounder of Not Boring Software Andy Allen tweeted images showing that asking it to make [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2024-07-02T21:15:22Z","apple_news_api_id":"55900ba9-2199-4052-9f4b-a0582925ff4d","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2024-07-09T19:34:22Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABA==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/AVZALqSGZQFKfS6BYKSX_TQ","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[1351,167,77,1345,2361,2294,96],"class_list":["post-43939","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-artificial-intelligence","tag-copyright","tag-design","tag-figma","tag-openai","tag-weather-app","tag-web"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43939","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=43939"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43939\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":44024,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43939\/revisions\/44024"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=43939"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=43939"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=43939"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}