{"id":42258,"date":"2024-02-27T14:35:59","date_gmt":"2024-02-27T19:35:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=42258"},"modified":"2024-03-22T08:40:25","modified_gmt":"2024-03-22T12:40:25","slug":"reddit-ai-training-data-and-ipo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2024\/02\/27\/reddit-ai-training-data-and-ipo\/","title":{"rendered":"Reddit AI Training Data and IPO"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/2024\/02\/19\/reddit-user-content-being-sold\/\">Ben Lovejoy<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/2024\/02\/19\/reddit-user-content-being-sold\/\">\n<p>It&rsquo;s being reported that a deal has been struck to allow an unnamed large AI company to use Reddit user content for training purposes &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>The deal is said to be worth around $60M per year, and comes at a time when the company is seeking to maximize its value in the run-up to an IPO.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2024\/2\/22\/24080165\/google-reddit-ai-training-data\">Emma Roth<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2024\/2\/22\/24080165\/google-reddit-ai-training-data\">\n<p>Google is getting AI training data from Reddit as <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.google\/inside-google\/company-announcements\/expanded-reddit-partnership\/\">part of a new partnership<\/a> between the two companies. In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.redditinc.com\/blog\/reddit-and-google-expand-partnership\">an update on Thursday<\/a>, Reddit announced it will start providing Google &ldquo;more efficient ways to train models.&rdquo; <\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>The partnership will give Reddit access to Vertex AI as well, Google&rsquo;s AI-powered service that&rsquo;s supposed to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2023\/11\/16\/23961600\/google-is-letting-anyone-build-their-own-netflix-like-ai-powered-recommendations-using-google-cloud\">help companies improve<\/a> their search results. Reddit says the change doesn&rsquo;t affect the company&rsquo;s data API terms, which prevent developers or companies from accessing it for commercial purposes without approval.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mas.to\/@carnage4life\/111974325550725921\">Dare Obasanjo<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mas.to\/@carnage4life\/111974325550725921\">\n<p>Called it. Only question is whether the deal is exclusive or if there&rsquo;s an option to make it exclusive since $60M is relatively low for exclusivity.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2024\/02\/22\/reddit-files-to-list-ipo-on-nyse-under-the-ticker-rddt.html\">Jonathan Vanian<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2024\/02\/22\/reddit-files-to-list-ipo-on-nyse-under-the-ticker-rddt.html\"><p>Social media company Reddit <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sec.gov\/Archives\/edgar\/data\/1713445\/000162828024006294\/reddits-1q423.htm\">filed its IPO prospectus<\/a> with the Securities and Exchange Commission on Thursday after a yearslong run-up. The company plans to trade on the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker symbol &ldquo;RDDT.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Reddit said it had $804 million in annual sales for 2023, up 20% from the $666.7 million it brought in the previous year, according to the filing. The social networking company&rsquo;s core business is reliant on online advertising sales stemming from its website and mobile app.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Via <a href=\"https:\/\/mas.to\/@carnage4life\/111977663067683706\">Dare Obasanjo<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mas.to\/@carnage4life\/111977663067683706\"><p>It was valued at $10B in its last funding round and \nSam Altman owns an 8.7% stake.<\/p><p>A few surprises in Reddit&rsquo;s financials are that it&rsquo;s still unprofitable in its nineteenth year of existence and if it does list at $5B as rumored then it will be a down round relative to its series F funding round.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2024\/2\/22\/24079978\/reddit-ipo-public-offering-shares-power-users\">Emma Roth<\/a> (via <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@matthewcassinelli\/111981712992352911\">Matthew Cassinelli<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2024\/2\/22\/24079978\/reddit-ipo-public-offering-shares-power-users\">\n<p>In an unusual twist, Reddit is also giving an unspecified number of its top users, including moderators and those with high karma scores, the chance to buy shares in its IPO. That&rsquo;s a privilege usually reserved for professional investors who want to buy stock at a theoretically lower price before everyone else gets to purchase it on the public market.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/11\/06\/google-vertex-ai-search\/\">Google Vertex AI Search<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/06\/14\/reddit-api-ama-and-user-revolt\/\">Reddit API AMA and User Revolt<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/06\/08\/apollo-shutting-down-june-30th\/\">Apollo Shutting Down June 30th<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/06\/01\/reddit-to-charge-for-api\/\">Reddit to Charge for API<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/08\/21\/reddit-raises-even-more\/\">Reddit Raises Even More<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"reddit-ai-training-data-and-ipo-update-2024-03-11\">Update (2024-03-11): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2024-03-11\/reddit-launches-long-awaited-ipo-with-748-million-target?embedded-checkout=true\">Amy Or, Priya Anand, and Ryan Gould<\/a> (via <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=39666476\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2024-03-11\/reddit-launches-long-awaited-ipo-with-748-million-target?embedded-checkout=true\">\n<p>Reddit Inc. disclosed further details of what is set to be one of the year&rsquo;s biggest initial public offerings, with the company and some existing shareholders seeking to raise as much as $748 million.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"reddit-ai-training-data-and-ipo-update-2024-03-20\">Update (2024-03-20): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2024\/03\/16\/reddit_promoted_posts\/\">Brandon Vigliarolo<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=39734825\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2024\/03\/16\/reddit_promoted_posts\/\"><p>Ahead of its stock market debut, Reddit has said it&rsquo;s going to make it easier for advertisers to craft normal user posts and run them as ads on the social network.<\/p><p>Called &ldquo;free-form ads,&rdquo; Reddit claimed in a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.redditinc.com\/blog\/advertise-like-a-redditor-with-our-all-new-completely-unique-ad-format-free-form-ads\">statement<\/a> this week that the &ldquo;all-new, completely unique ad format&rdquo; is designed to improve click-through rates and upvotes &#x2013; by making adverts look as much like user posts as possible.<\/p><p>To be clear, we understand these free-form ads will be labeled as promoted posts.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"reddit-ai-training-data-and-ipo-update-2024-03-22\">Update (2024-03-22): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ycombinator.com\/blog\/the-reddits\">Paul Graham<\/a> (via <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=39778590\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.ycombinator.com\/blog\/the-reddits\"><p>I met the Reddits before we even started Y Combinator. In fact they were one of the reasons we started it.<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>I don&rsquo;t think the startup sense of the word &ldquo;pivot&rdquo; had been invented yet, but we wanted to fund Steve and Alexis, so if their idea was bad, they&rsquo;d have to work on something else.<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>Reddit the site (and now app) is such a fundamentally useful thing that it&rsquo;s almost unkillable.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/03\/19\/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-defends-193-million-compensation-following-backlash-unpaid-moderators\/\">Ianna Rosa Royle<\/a> (via <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=39776228\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2024\/03\/19\/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-defends-193-million-compensation-following-backlash-unpaid-moderators\/\"><p>While Reddit&rsquo;s CEO Steve Huffman has been given a $193 million compensation package, the moderators on the platform are unpaid&mdash;and the disparity has not gone unnoticed. Since word got out about Huffman&rsquo;s pay, users on Quora, Reddit, and <a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/company\/twitter\/\">X<\/a> have been ripping into the package.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/qz.com\/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-compensation-pinterest-snap-me-1851350157\">Laura Bratton<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/qz.com\/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-compensation-pinterest-snap-me-1851350157\"><p>The staggering figure was included in the company&rsquo;s U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) filing on Feb. 22 as it <a href=\"https:\/\/qz.com\/reddit-ipo-public-valuation-need-to-know-1851325977\">prepares to launch an initial public offering<\/a> this week. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/RDDT\/comments\/1bhr6uv\/amalmosta_answers_but_make_it_video\/\">Huffman defended his compensation<\/a> in a video on his social media platform this week. Quartz calculates that it&rsquo;s more than the pay packages for the CEOs of Pinterest, Snap, and Meta &mdash; combined.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/finance.yahoo.com\/news\/reddit-stock-soars-in-highly-anticipated-market-debut-172445008.html\">Ines Ferr&eacute;<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/finance.yahoo.com\/news\/reddit-stock-soars-in-highly-anticipated-market-debut-172445008.html\">\n<p>The stock closed at $50.44 on Thursday, up 48% from the IPO price and giving the company a market cap just north of $8 billion.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ben Lovejoy: It&rsquo;s being reported that a deal has been struck to allow an unnamed large AI company to use Reddit user content for training purposes &#8230; The deal is said to be worth around $60M per year, and comes at a time when the company is seeking to maximize its value in the run-up [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2024-02-27T19:36:01Z","apple_news_api_id":"7b44aa3d-046c-4220-9793-ae21c1c2707b","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2024-03-22T12:40:28Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAg==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/Ae0SqPQRsQiCXk64hwcJwew","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[1351,101,51,1366,96],"class_list":["post-42258","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-artificial-intelligence","tag-business","tag-google","tag-reddit","tag-web"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42258","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=42258"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42258\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":42602,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42258\/revisions\/42602"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=42258"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=42258"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=42258"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}