{"id":40272,"date":"2023-08-08T16:55:50","date_gmt":"2023-08-08T20:55:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=40272"},"modified":"2025-02-10T09:56:52","modified_gmt":"2025-02-10T14:56:52","slug":"another-user-locked-out-of-apple-account","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/08\/08\/another-user-locked-out-of-apple-account\/","title":{"rendered":"Another User Locked Out of Apple Account"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/old.reddit.com\/r\/applehelp\/comments\/15gechw\/apple_just_stole_hundreds_of_dollars_from_me\/\">Wasingtheisofwas<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=36974358\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/old.reddit.com\/r\/applehelp\/comments\/15gechw\/apple_just_stole_hundreds_of_dollars_from_me\/\"><p>So this morning I go to update my apps. Instead of it going ahead with the update or asking for my fingerprint or the like, I get a message saying &ldquo;your account has been disable in the app store and itunes&rdquo;.\n<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>I reach out to customer service. They tell me that I have violated the terms and conditions of the app store. I ask them to explain and they say that the account has been flagged for &ldquo;Fraudulent Patterns&rdquo;. I have no idea what that means, or what I could possibly have done on my iPhone that would constitute fraud.<\/p><p>The customer support rep tells me that I will need to create a new Apple ID. When I ask him what will happen to all of the content that I have paid for over the years, as well as the subscriptions that I am currently paying for, he tells me that there is nothing he can do and that I cannot be refunded.<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>The Apple Support Senior Advisor told me it was permanent.[&#8230;]<\/p><p>It&rsquo;s not &ldquo;under review&rdquo; It&rsquo;s not &ldquo;temporary&rdquo; and there is no &ldquo;possibility of regaining my ID&rdquo;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Because it&rsquo;s about security, Apple won&rsquo;t say what the infraction supposedly was. The support manager says there&rsquo;s no procedure to get the account reinstated even though this happens &ldquo;frequently.&rdquo;<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@tolmasky\/110821565591149015\">Francisco Tolmasky<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@tolmasky\/110821565591149015\"><p>If I am understanding this thread correctly, Apple might disable your AppleID if your credit card is stolen&#8230; even if the fraudulent charge doesn&rsquo;t even happen on your account. It&rsquo;s crazy that disabling an AppleID is a remedy for <em>anything<\/em>, let alone things not happening on your account. That means you&rsquo;d lose all your emails on iCloud, BACKUPS on iCloud, data, your logins to every site you used sign-in-with-Apple, the list goes on. This is absolutely crazy.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/06\/20\/amazon-account-locked-due-to-alleged-remarks-to-driver\/\">Amazon Account Locked Due to Alleged Remarks to Driver<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/04\/20\/iphone-thieves-locking-users-out-of-their-apple-accounts\/\">iPhone Thieves Locking Users Out of Their Apple Accounts<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/08\/22\/google-account-deleted-due-to-csam-false-positive\/\">Google Account Deleted Due to CSAM False Positive<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/12\/07\/apple-accounts-permanently-blocked\/\">Apple Accounts &ldquo;Permanently&rdquo; Blocked<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/03\/04\/apple-account-locked-due-to-failed-trade-in\/\">Apple Account Locked Due to Failed Trade-in<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/08\/13\/locked-out-of-an-apple-account\/\">Locked Out of an Apple Account<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"another-user-locked-out-of-apple-account-update-2023-08-09\">Update (2023-08-09): <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@ezekiel@hachyderm.io\/110856204813963867\">Ezekiel Elin<\/a> notes that it may be that Wasingtheisofwas retains access to iCloud and was only barred from purchased content. In theory, the iCloud data could be migrated to a new account, although I don&rsquo;t think it would necessarily be easy or even possible for all apps.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@quiverdesignco@typo.social\/110856066770586998\">Matt Ankerich<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@quiverdesignco@typo.social\/110856066770586998\">\n<p>I can&rsquo;t get apple to let me CHANGE my appleID and delete the atme email address associated with it (it is on the dark web because of a data leak, and I get hundreds of spam emails addressed to the account daily). The only remedy is to delete the appleID which would annihilate my purchases. The holiness that apple treats these original ids is absurd not to mention that we can&rsquo;t merge IDs purchased content into single accounts.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/05\/03\/multiple-apple-id-accounts\/\">Multiple Apple ID Accounts<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"another-user-locked-out-of-apple-account-update-2023-08-15\">Update (2023-08-15): <a href=\"https:\/\/initialcharge.net\/2023\/08\/locked-out-apple-id\/\">Mike Rockwell<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/initialcharge.net\/2023\/08\/locked-out-apple-id\/\">\n<p>I hope we&rsquo;re nearing a future where you can realistically use an iPhone without an Apple ID at all &mdash; replacing all of Apple&rsquo;s services, including the App Store, with independent alternatives.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Lots of third-party apps are locked in via CloudKit.<\/p>\n\n<p id=\"another-user-locked-out-of-apple-account-update-2025-02-10\">Update (2025-02-10): <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@davewoodx\/113926278692891669\">Dave Wood<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@davewoodx\/113926278692891669\"><p>Had to chat w\/Apple support to have them unlock the account.<\/p><p>I was warned: &ldquo;Just a heads up that further fraudulent activities may permanently disable the account&rdquo;.<\/p><p>I said I didn&rsquo;t like that wording as it implies I did something fraudulent to begin with, which I didn&rsquo;t. He insisted this was to keep my &ldquo;account safe&rdquo;.<\/p><p>Apple has too much power. I shouldn&rsquo;t be locked out of my devices\/data randomly on Apple&rsquo;s whim. I have $thousands of software\/movies licensed to my #AppleID that are at risk.<\/p><\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Wasingtheisofwas (Hacker News): So this morning I go to update my apps. Instead of it going ahead with the update or asking for my fingerprint or the like, I get a message saying &ldquo;your account has been disable in the app store and itunes&rdquo;. [&#8230;]I reach out to customer service. 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