{"id":40235,"date":"2023-08-02T22:37:53","date_gmt":"2023-08-03T02:37:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=40235"},"modified":"2023-08-09T15:46:59","modified_gmt":"2023-08-09T19:46:59","slug":"mozilla-shutting-down-pocket-for-mac","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/08\/02\/mozilla-shutting-down-pocket-for-mac\/","title":{"rendered":"Mozilla Shutting Down Pocket for Mac"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/2023\/08\/01\/mozilla-shutting-down-pocket-app-for-mac\/\">Michael Potuck<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.online\/@9to5Mac\/110815398205335548\">Mastodon<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/2023\/08\/01\/mozilla-shutting-down-pocket-app-for-mac\/\">\n<p>Mozilla has announced today that its read-it-later service Pocket will be retiring its Mac app this month. Users are encouraged to install the iOS app on their Mac or use the web going forward.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The whole point of native apps is that I <em>don&rsquo;t<\/em> want a &ldquo;consistent user experience across mobile and web.&rdquo; That&rsquo;s another way of saying &ldquo;lowest common denominator.&rdquo; I would rather have a differentiated\/optimized experience on each platform. This change also completely removes support for the app on Intel-based Macs, which can&rsquo;t run iOS apps. Although, if it&rsquo;s anything like most Catalyst, not to mention iOS apps for the Mac, I&rsquo;d probably prefer the Web version, anyway.<\/p>\n<p>Catalyst is not working out as I&rsquo;d hoped. Four years in, and it still seems to be caught in an awkward middle ground. With very few exceptions, the apps don&rsquo;t feel like real Mac apps. Yet they&rsquo;re apparently not easy enough to write and maintain that a lot of companies will add Mac support&mdash;and even existing Mac versions are being discontinued.<\/p>\n<p>With iOS Apps for Mac, expectations are lower, and I&rsquo;ve sometimes found them useful, but it seems like most apps aren&rsquo;t marked as available.<\/p>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/02\/18\/where-mac-catalyst-falls-short\/\">Where Mac Catalyst Falls Short<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/01\/21\/jira-discontinues-catalyst-mac-app\/\">Jira Discontinues Catalyst Mac App<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/11\/25\/ios-apps-not-available-in-the-mac-app-store\/\">iOS Apps Not Available in the Mac App Store<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/11\/19\/iphone-and-ipad-apps-in-the-mac-app-store\/\">iPhone and iPad Apps in the Mac App Store<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/12\/16\/catalyst-and-cohesion\/\">Catalyst and Cohesion<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/06\/25\/catalyst-can-rescue-the-mac-and-grow-the-ipad\/\">Catalyst Can Rescue the Mac and Grow the iPad<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/06\/14\/desktop-apps-post-catalyst\/\">Desktop Apps Post-Catalyst<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2017\/03\/09\/mozilla-acquires-pocket\/\">Mozilla Acquires Pocket<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"mozilla-shutting-down-pocket-for-mac-update-2023-08-09\">Update (2023-08-09): <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@johnvoorhees@macstories.net\/110815386388231963\">John Voorhees<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@johnvoorhees@macstories.net\/110815386388231963\"><p>I think we&rsquo;re going to see more and more of this with Mac apps.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@marcoarment\/110815754338057104\">Marco<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@marcoarment\/110816123234625749\">Arment<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@marcoarment\/110816123234625749\"><p>For primarily-iOS apps, letting your app run in iPad-compatibility mode on a Mac is MUCH less work than maintaining a Catalyst app, which itself is massively less work than having a separate AppKit app.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@marcoarment\/110815754338057104\"><p>[A] Catalyst version requires a completely separate testing and release workflow, and a separate approval process for every update, because it needs to be listed in the Mac App Store.<\/p><p>iPad apps running on Apple silicon just use their iOS App Store entries.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@gruber\/110816738489585731\">John Gruber<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@gruber\/110816738489585731\"><p>On the Mac, Pocket seems like the sort of thing that makes sense to use in your web browser. Even Apple&rsquo;s own News app is built with Catalyst, and every single time I use Apple News on the Mac I wind up wishing I were reading the article in Safari instead.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/iosdev.space\/@cdf1982\/110818984159268509\">Cesare Forelli<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/iosdev.space\/@cdf1982\/110818984159268509\"><p>The Cocoa app hadn&rsquo;t been updated in 5 years, but still worked natively and well (it WASN&rsquo;T a web wrapper!), with the only thing missing being support for Dark mode.<\/p><p>Here&rsquo;s a few <a href=\"https:\/\/iosdev.space\/@cdf1982\/110728214082953441\">screenshots<\/a> for comparing information density and Mac-likeness of the old app and the iPad version.<\/p><p>Personally, I disagree that on Macs such service works well in a browser: I always liked having a dedicated bookmarking app in its&rsquo; corner of the screen, independent from browser tabs.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@nicole@myna.social\/110816967111833480\">nicole<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@nicole@myna.social\/110816967111833480\"><p>My biggest complaint about the iPad app on macOS is the SafariViewController =&gt; Safari bridge, which throws up a clunky &ldquo;this link is being opened in Safari&rdquo; window every time you view web content. I accept the underlying conceit, but it&rsquo;s a pretty rude kludge.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>See also: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/macapps\/comments\/15gxuzv\/the_whole_point_of_native_apps_is_that_i_dont\/\">Reddit<\/a>.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Michael Potuck (Mastodon): Mozilla has announced today that its read-it-later service Pocket will be retiring its Mac app this month. Users are encouraged to install the iOS app on their Mac or use the web going forward. The whole point of native apps is that I don&rsquo;t want a &ldquo;consistent user experience across mobile and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2023-08-03T02:37:56Z","apple_news_api_id":"6ab556fe-00b7-42c2-9b5b-e0161eba5a51","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2023-08-09T19:47:02Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQ==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/AarVW_gC3QsKbW-AWHrpaUQ","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[1621,2255,30,32,39,2223,410,1293,1451],"class_list":["post-40235","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-marzipan","tag-ios-apps-on-macos","tag-mac","tag-macapp","tag-macappstore","tag-macos-13-ventura","tag-mozilla","tag-pocket","tag-sunset"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40235","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=40235"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40235\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":40289,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40235\/revisions\/40289"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=40235"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=40235"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=40235"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}