{"id":40193,"date":"2023-07-27T14:23:19","date_gmt":"2023-07-27T18:23:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=40193"},"modified":"2024-01-09T10:12:38","modified_gmt":"2024-01-09T15:12:38","slug":"tesla-range-estimates-and-suppressing-complaints","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/07\/27\/tesla-range-estimates-and-suppressing-complaints\/","title":{"rendered":"Tesla Range Estimates and Suppressing Complaints"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/investigates\/special-report\/tesla-batteries-range\/\">Steve Stecklow and Norihiko Shirouzu<\/a> (via <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=36891642\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/investigates\/special-report\/tesla-batteries-range\/\">\n<p>Tesla years ago began exaggerating its vehicles&rsquo; potential driving distance &#x2013; by rigging their range-estimating software. The company decided about a decade ago, for marketing purposes, to write algorithms for its range meter that would show drivers &ldquo;rosy&rdquo; projections for the distance it could travel on a full battery[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Then, when the battery fell below 50% of its maximum charge, the algorithm would show drivers more realistic projections for their remaining driving range, this person said. [&#8230;] The directive to present the optimistic range estimates came from Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk, this person said.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Data collected in 2022 and 2023 from more than 8,000 Teslas by Recurrent, a Seattle-based EV analytics company, showed that the cars&rsquo; dashboard range meters didn&rsquo;t change their estimates to reflect hot or cold outside temperatures, which can greatly reduce range.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Tesla supervisors told some virtual team members to steer customers away from bringing their cars into service whenever possible.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Tesla also updated its phone app so that any customer who complained about range could no longer book service appointments, one of the sources said.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>In late 2022, managers aiming to quickly close cases told advisors to stop running remote diagnostic tests on the vehicles of owners who had reported range problems[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;Thousands of customers were told there is nothing wrong with their car&rdquo; by advisors who had never run diagnostics, the person said.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2017\/01\/10\/explanation-for-consumer-reports-battery-results\/\">Explanation for Consumer Reports&rsquo; Battery Results<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2016\/12\/13\/macos-10-12-2-removes-battery-time-remaining-estimate\/\">macOS 10.12.2 Removes Battery Time Remaining Estimate<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/21\/verizon-iphone-4-antenna\/\">Verizon iPhone 4 Antenna<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2010\/07\/15\/ios-4-0-1-signal-bars-and-tape-reception-test\/\">iOS 4.0.1 Signal Bars and Tape Reception Test<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2010\/07\/02\/apple-responds-to-iphone-4-reception-problems\/\">Apple Responds to iPhone 4 Reception Problems<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"tesla-range-estimates-and-suppressing-complaints-update-2023-08-04\">Update (2023-08-04): <a href=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/tech-policy\/2023\/08\/angry-tesla-customers-sue-firm-over-grossly-exaggerated-ev-range\/\">Jon Brodkin<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=36989496\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/tech-policy\/2023\/08\/angry-tesla-customers-sue-firm-over-grossly-exaggerated-ev-range\/\"><p>Tesla is facing a class-action lawsuit filed by customers who say they were misled by the company&rsquo;s exaggerated range claims. The <a href=\"https:\/\/storage.courtlistener.com\/recap\/gov.uscourts.cand.416318\/gov.uscourts.cand.416318.1.0.pdf\">lawsuit<\/a> was filed yesterday, days after a report revealed that Tesla exaggerated its electric vehicles&rsquo; range so much that many drivers thought their cars were broken.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"tesla-range-estimates-and-suppressing-complaints-update-2024-01-09\">Update (2024-01-09): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2024\/1\/5\/24026367\/tesla-lowers-range-estimations-model-x-s-y-mileage-exaggeration\">Jess Weatherbed<\/a> (via <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=38898119\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2024\/1\/5\/24026367\/tesla-lowers-range-estimations-model-x-s-y-mileage-exaggeration\"><p>Tesla has lowered the range estimates across several Model Y, S, and X vehicles in the US, reducing the figure on certain trims by up to six percent. As reported by <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2024\/01\/05\/tesla-model-y-range-estimate-reduced-by-6-becoming-more-realistic\/\"><em>Electrek<\/em><\/a>, Tesla&rsquo;s online configurator now displays an estimated range of 285 miles for the Model Y&rsquo;s Performance trim, down 18 miles from its previous 303-mile estimate.<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>Tesla has not offered an explanation for the lowered range estimations. <a href=\"https:\/\/driveteslacanada.ca\/news\/tesla-lowers-ranges-for-model-s-x-y-adds-stealth-grey-and-ultra-red-for-model-y\/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=tesla-lowers-ranges-for-model-s-x-y-adds-stealth-grey-and-ultra-red-for-model-y\"><em>Drive Tesla<\/em> reports<\/a> that the changes are related to two things after reviewing internal company documents. First, are &ldquo;comfort and functionality improvements&rdquo; made by Tesla that require more energy, and second is the implementation of revised EPA testing requirements that result in a &ldquo;higher consumption and a slight decrease in overall range.&rdquo;<\/p><\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Steve Stecklow and Norihiko Shirouzu (via Hacker News): Tesla years ago began exaggerating its vehicles&rsquo; potential driving distance &#x2013; by rigging their range-estimating software. The company decided about a decade ago, for marketing purposes, to write algorithms for its range meter that would show drivers &ldquo;rosy&rdquo; projections for the distance it could travel on a [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2023-07-27T18:23:21Z","apple_news_api_id":"bdd8d2a2-315f-4165-a6b4-d3ac110537d8","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2024-01-09T15:12:41Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAg==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/AvdjSojFfQWWmtNOsEQU32A","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[28,1167,1870,2289,41,209,1295],"class_list":["post-40193","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-batterylife","tag-car","tag-department-of-justice-doj","tag-elon-musk","tag-lawsuit","tag-legal","tag-tesla"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40193","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=40193"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40193\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":41701,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40193\/revisions\/41701"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=40193"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=40193"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=40193"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}