{"id":39014,"date":"2023-04-07T15:11:22","date_gmt":"2023-04-07T19:11:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=39014"},"modified":"2023-04-07T15:11:22","modified_gmt":"2023-04-07T19:11:22","slug":"carrier-forced-wi-fi-offloading","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/04\/07\/carrier-forced-wi-fi-offloading\/","title":{"rendered":"Carrier-Forced Wi-Fi Offloading"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=35447486\">newZWhoDis<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=35447486\">\n<p>Essentially, the latest iOS (16.4 at post time) allows your cellular carrier (via eSIM) to add &ldquo;managed networks&rdquo; to your device.<\/p>\n<p>These networks cannot be removed, they cannot have &ldquo;automatically join&rdquo; disabled, and they have equal priority with your real, personal networks.<\/p>\n<p>So guess what happens when your neighbors get a wifi\/modem combo that blasts a free hotspot SSID? Not only does it pollute the already crowded 2.4ghz band, your iPhone will often prefer this connection over your real \/local wifi (despite said wifi being at 1 bar).<\/p>\n<p>As of post-time, there is no way to remove these networks short of completely disabling cell service\/removing the eSIM and resetting all network settings.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=35449832\">seraphsf<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=35449832\"><p>Wifi offloading is not new. AT&amp;T helped invent these standards back in ~2009 when their network was getting crushed by massive increases in traffic as iPhone usage took off.<\/p><p>WiFi offload networks are configured as &ldquo;Managed Networks&rdquo; which are lower priority than any user-selected networks. You can disable them by turning off &ldquo;auto-join&rdquo;. (Also these WiFi offload networks are secure; you can&rsquo;t spoof them).<\/p><p>However it appears that the original poster&rsquo;s carrier (presumably Xfinity Mobile or Spectrum Mobile) has done something new - they&rsquo;ve disabled the user&rsquo;s ability to turn off &ldquo;auto-join&rdquo; on iOS. Some overzealous team is trying to lower their cellular costs. That&rsquo;s because both Comcast and Spectrum rent capacity on Verizon Wireless towers, but their MVNO cellular service is not profitable unless their customers are using the cable company&rsquo;s own WiFi fairly often.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=35447747\">trafficante<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=35447747\">\n<p>I noticed this a couple days back at Home Depot, of all places. Was looking up the locations of stuff I needed to pick up via their website while sitting out in the parking lot and my iPhone kept switching off 5g to hop on some single bar wifi that I couldn&rsquo;t delete or deselect auto-join.<\/p>\n<p>Eventually just turned off wifi and the problem was &ldquo;solved&rdquo; but man this is going to be annoying if it starts happening at the grocery store or something.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/03\/27\/ios-16-4-and-ipados-16-4\/\">iOS 16.4 and iPadOS 16.4<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>newZWhoDis: Essentially, the latest iOS (16.4 at post time) allows your cellular carrier (via eSIM) to add &ldquo;managed networks&rdquo; to your device. These networks cannot be removed, they cannot have &ldquo;automatically join&rdquo; disabled, and they have equal priority with your real, personal networks. So guess what happens when your neighbors get a wifi\/modem combo that [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2023-04-07T19:11:24Z","apple_news_api_id":"d3f880e8-1ed9-420f-be92-0d13f463ff6e","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2023-04-07T19:11:25Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAD\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/w==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/A0_iA6B7ZQg--kg0T9GP_bg","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[132,31,2185,187],"class_list":["post-39014","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-carrier","tag-ios","tag-ios-16","tag-wifi"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/39014","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=39014"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/39014\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":39015,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/39014\/revisions\/39015"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=39014"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=39014"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=39014"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}