{"id":37572,"date":"2022-11-04T17:34:41","date_gmt":"2022-11-04T21:34:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=37572"},"modified":"2024-05-15T11:03:14","modified_gmt":"2024-05-15T15:03:14","slug":"reduced-airpods-noise-cancellation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/11\/04\/reduced-airpods-noise-cancellation\/","title":{"rendered":"Reduced AirPods Noise Cancellation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2022\/10\/25\/airpods-max-anc-performance-reduced\/\">Sami Fathi<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2022\/10\/25\/airpods-max-anc-performance-reduced\/\"><p>Apple&rsquo;s $550 over-ear AirPods Max headphones are less effective at blocking out outside noise when using Active Noise Cancellation (ANC) following their latest firmware update, according to results from a detailed audio test.<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>The decrease in ANC effectiveness was highlighted in an article by <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2022\/9\/24\/23368439\/airpods-max-anc-active-noise-canceling-weakened-firmware-experience-appke\">The Verge<\/a><\/em> last month following months of discussion and complaints from  AirPods Max  users on Reddit and other discussion forums.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/thisistechtoday\/status\/1588034298598154240\">M. Brandon Lee<\/a> (via <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ScooterComputer\/status\/1588345493578457088\">Scott<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/thisistechtoday\/status\/1588034298598154240\">\n<p>Some interesting research shows that the reduction in ANC quality on Apple&rsquo;s products is not planned obsolescence but the result of a Patent Troll.<\/p>\n<p>Apple cannot talk about it as it is an ongoing case.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/airpods\/comments\/yfc5xw\/comment\/iu5fjip\/?context=1\">facingcondor<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/airpods\/comments\/yfc5xw\/comment\/iu5fjip\/?context=1\"><p>It appears that Apple is quietly replacing or removing the noise cancellation tech in all of their products to protect themselves in an ongoing patent lawsuit.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There&rsquo;s a detailed timeline.<\/p>\n\n<p>I have no way of doing an A-B test, but my general sense is that noise cancellation with my AirPods Pro has been less effective for about a year, and that accords with this test by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rtings.com\/headphones\/reviews\/apple\/airpods-pro-truly-wireless#test_423\">Rtings<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.rtings.com\/headphones\/reviews\/apple\/airpods-pro-truly-wireless#test_423\">\n<p>After updating this [AirPod Pro] firmware, our results showed a fairly significant drop in isolation performance, primarily in the bass range. This means that with ANC turned on, they won&rsquo;t do nearly as good a job blocking out the low engine rumbles of planes or buses as they did before this update. Our latest retest uses firmware update 4A400, released in October 2021, which shows that their overall noise isolation performance has been further weakened.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/09\/07\/airpods-pro-2022\/\">AirPods Pro 2022<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/05\/06\/airpods-pro-firmware-problems\/\">AirPods Pro Firmware Problems<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"reduced-airpods-noise-cancellation-update-2022-11-09\">Update (2022-11-09): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/airpods\/comments\/ypwiua\/comment\/ivmp7hk\/?utm_source=reddit&amp;utm_medium=web2x&amp;context=3\">scubidubidu<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/airpods\/comments\/ypwiua\/comment\/ivmp7hk\/?utm_source=reddit&amp;utm_medium=web2x&amp;context=3\">\n<p>I bought my AirPods Pro 2 on launch day. This was my first set of ANC earphones coming from AirPods 2nd gen. At first I was amazed, and after finding out you can see on the Noise app in the AppleWatch how much noise was being cancelled, it would usually be a 30dB reduction on average (If ambient noise was at 70dB, my APP2 with ANC on would give me about 40dB. If ambient noise was 65dB, my APP2 with ANC on would give me about 35dB) I would check that every time I went to a noisy environment to check due to the products novelty.<\/p>\n<p>Many weeks later I started noticing sounds that would be blocked before (the voices of the people on the table next to me, clacking of dishes in the kitchen, the restaurants music although relatively quiet). So I started monitoring the results on the AW noise app and found that the reduction I had in the exact same environment was increased by 6dB, now I get a 24dB reduction in an environment with 60-70dB where before I used to have a 30dB reduction.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"reduced-airpods-noise-cancellation-update-2022-12-02\">Update (2022-12-02): <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/obrhoff\/status\/1588846105797722112\">Dennis<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/obrhoff\/status\/1588846105797722112\">\n<p>Man this pisses me off.  I used to work in my Kitchen with a pair of AirPods Max while the washing machine was running and I started noticing it a while ago.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/apple\/comments\/yn09lm\/no_apple_is_almost_certainly_not_ruining_their\/\">JiminyDickish<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/apple\/comments\/yn09lm\/no_apple_is_almost_certainly_not_ruining_their\/\">\n<p>It&rsquo;s the kind of string on a corkboard post that Reddit loves to upvote, full of intrigue and conspiracy, but its conclusions are not sound.<\/p>\n<p>The patents in question are not related to noise cancellation. They are for microphone arrays and voice recognition.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Adaptation is the very straightforward phenomenon that easily explains why we perceive soft sounds to be louder after some time&mdash;our brains get used to it.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Yet the measurements do seem to show more noise after the firmware updates.<\/p>\n\n<p id=\"reduced-airpods-noise-cancellation-update-2024-05-15\">Update (2024-05-15): <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1790051184016765165\">Ryan Jones<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1790051184016765165\"><p>AirPods Max and Pro noise cancelling has definitely gotten worse.<\/p><p>For blocking and voice isolating.  I&rsquo;m having to look for new headphones. :(<\/p><\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sami Fathi: Apple&rsquo;s $550 over-ear AirPods Max headphones are less effective at blocking out outside noise when using Active Noise Cancellation (ANC) following their latest firmware update, according to results from a detailed audio test.[&#8230;]The decrease in ANC effectiveness was highlighted in an article by The Verge last month following months of discussion and complaints [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2022-11-04T21:34:43Z","apple_news_api_id":"4dda3efa-48cb-492d-a0a3-f66c8a262b08","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2024-05-15T15:03:18Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABQ==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/ATdo--kjLSS2go_ZsiiYrCA","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[1422,95,749,41,40],"class_list":["post-37572","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-airpods","tag-audio","tag-jawbone","tag-lawsuit","tag-patents"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37572","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=37572"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37572\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":43232,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37572\/revisions\/43232"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=37572"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=37572"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=37572"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}