{"id":37237,"date":"2022-10-06T14:31:34","date_gmt":"2022-10-06T18:31:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=37237"},"modified":"2022-11-30T10:35:40","modified_gmt":"2022-11-30T15:35:40","slug":"stage-manager-in-ios-16-1-beta-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/10\/06\/stage-manager-in-ios-16-1-beta-3\/","title":{"rendered":"Stage Manager in iOS 16.1 Beta 3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2022\/10\/05\/stage-manager-issues-as-ipados-16-nears-release\/\">Joe Rossignol<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2022\/10\/05\/stage-manager-issues-as-ipados-16-nears-release\/\">\n<p>In the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2022\/10\/04\/apple-seeds-ios-16-1-beta-4-to-developers\/\">latest iPadOS 16 beta<\/a> seeded earlier this week, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/stroughtonsmith\/status\/1577356440271994883\">developer Steve Troughton-Smith<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/viticci\/status\/1577671428987621376\"><em>MacStories<\/em> editor-in-chief Federico Viticci<\/a> highlighted various user interface issues they continue to face from time to time while using Stage Manager, including the dock disappearing when rotating the iPad, content failing to scale properly when a window is resized, keyboard input failing to register in certain apps, and more.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/stroughtonsmith\/status\/1577354818406027264\">Steve Troughton-Smith<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/stroughtonsmith\/status\/1577354818406027264\">\n<p>Today&rsquo;s iPadOS beta: still able to bring down SpringBoard in the first 5 minutes<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>No joke, if Stage Manager ships the way it is in this build, it will break iPadOS. I only put a fraction of the stuff I come across on Twitter, but so many little things across the OS and system apps break in weird ways.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/viticci\/status\/1577612275824852993\">Federico Viticci<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/viticci\/status\/1577612275824852993\"><p>I understand that some folks think &ldquo;this is good enough&rdquo; for them. If so, great.<\/p><p>Personally, if I open an app and can&rsquo;t type, or use keyboard shortcuts, or can&rsquo;t click into a text field, that&rsquo;s a problem that prevents me from working with my iPad.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.macworld.com\/article\/1341608\/stage-manager-ipad-windowing.html\">Jason Snell<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.macworld.com\/article\/1341608\/stage-manager-ipad-windowing.html\">\n<p>When I try to use Stage Manager on my iPad Pro, I almost end up with a single configuration: two windows, more or less equally sized, next to each other. I end up so frustrated with Stage Manager that I essentially re-create Split View!<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>I&rsquo;m troubled by the fact that Apple doesn&rsquo;t seem to have a real vision for Stage Manager&#x2013;or, if what we have right now is its vision, that it&rsquo;s decided on some weird halfway step.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/stroughtonsmith\/status\/1578034948669288449\">Steve Troughton-Smith<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/stroughtonsmith\/status\/1578034948669288449\">\n<p>I don&rsquo;t understand why I can create a much more complex\/powerful app w\/ UIKit on macOS than I can on iPadOS. They built all the APIs, means to make this stuff great &mdash; then utilized none of them for Stage Manager. It&rsquo;s not that they haven&rsquo;t done the work &mdash; they chose to ignore it.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DamienPetrilli\/status\/1575415792186916865\">Damien Petrilli<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DamienPetrilli\/status\/1575415792186916865\">\n<p>Stage Manager requires more power than a real windowing system like on desktop OSes, is ultra limited, unstable and with confusing \/ bad UX.<\/p>\n<p>It&rsquo;s a disaster engineering and design wise.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/09\/28\/reduced-stage-manager-ipad-requirements\/\">Reduced Stage Manager iPad Requirements<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"stage-manager-in-ios-16-1-beta-3-update-2022-10-14\">Update (2022-10-14): <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/viticci\/status\/1579889720909520896\">Federico Viticci<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/viticci\/status\/1579889720909520896\">\n<p>Within the first 10 minutes of the latest Stage Manager beta:<\/p>\n<ul><li>Magic Keyboard input does not work unless I disable QuickType suggestions <\/li>\n<li>Got app windows being randomly thrown into a different workspace after &#x2318;-Tab <\/li>\n<li>App windows still randomly decide to cover the dock<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&#x1FAE0;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/BigZaphod\/status\/1579891647566868480\">Sean Heber<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/BigZaphod\/status\/1579891647566868480\">\n<p>The ongoing Stage Manager drama has been something to see. I can&rsquo;t remember any major iOS feature of this size in the entire history of the operating system having so many problems for so long so close to a release. &#x1F62C;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/stroughtonsmith\/status\/1579894321339588608\">Steve Troughton-Smith<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/stroughtonsmith\/status\/1579894321339588608\">\n<p>From another perspective, Stage Manager has delayed every other team on iPadOS from shipping by at least a month, and has barely had any tangible improvement to show for it. It&rsquo;s still rough and not ready to ship, even if you wave away all of its fatal design issues.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Joe Rossignol: In the latest iPadOS 16 beta seeded earlier this week, developer Steve Troughton-Smith and MacStories editor-in-chief Federico Viticci highlighted various user interface issues they continue to face from time to time while using Stage Manager, including the dock disappearing when rotating the iPad, content failing to scale properly when a window is resized, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2022-10-06T18:31:36Z","apple_news_api_id":"415b8317-4347-480b-9e83-8a21239617e0","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2022-11-30T15:35:43Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAw==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/AQVuDF0NHSAueg4ohI5YX4A","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[131,772,145,1814,2228,2313,2224],"class_list":["post-37237","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-bug","tag-ios-multitasking","tag-ipad","tag-ipados","tag-ipados-16","tag-ipados-beta","tag-stage-manager"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37237","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=37237"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37237\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":37332,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37237\/revisions\/37332"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=37237"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=37237"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=37237"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}