{"id":36731,"date":"2022-08-10T14:02:45","date_gmt":"2022-08-10T18:02:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=36731"},"modified":"2023-06-02T15:25:58","modified_gmt":"2023-06-02T19:25:58","slug":"time-for-apple-to-fix-texting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/08\/10\/time-for-apple-to-fix-texting\/","title":{"rendered":"Time for Apple to Fix Texting"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.android.com\/get-the-message\/#green-bubbles-faq-heading\">Android<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2022\/08\/09\/android-website-rcs-apple\/\">MacRumors<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=32399238\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.android.com\/get-the-message\/#green-bubbles-faq-heading\">\n<p>It&rsquo;s not about the color of the bubbles. It&rsquo;s the blurry videos, broken group chats, missing read receipts and typing indicators, no texting over Wi-Fi, and more. These problems exist because Apple refuses to adopt modern texting standards when people with iPhones and Android phones text each other.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2022\/08\/09\/google-rcs-dead-horse\">John Gruber<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2022\/08\/09\/google-rcs-dead-horse\">\n<p>RCS messages are only end-to-end encrypted sometimes, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.android.com\/google-features-on-android\/summer-2021\/#summer-2021-end-to-end-contents\">if both the sender and recipient are using Google&rsquo;s Messenger app<\/a>&#x2009;&mdash;&#x2009;and never for group chats, even with Google&rsquo;s Messenger app.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>So, practically speaking, neither RCS nor iMessage is actually private for most users. Right now, the experience of communicating with Android users from Messages is not very good. And it happens via SMS, which is even less secure. Whether or not you consider RCS to be a real open standard, it seems like it would be better than what we have now, and I don&rsquo;t see Apple proposing a better alternative. It&rsquo;s unclear whether this is a case of perfect being the enemy of good, RCS having genuine problems, Apple deliberately making things worse for their customers for strategic reasons, or simply not caring.<\/p>\n\n<p>Regardless, they should also make Messages <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mjtsai\/status\/1538673129601515521\">work better with SMS<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/gadgets\/2022\/08\/new-google-site-begs-apple-for-mercy-in-messaging-war\/\">Ron Amadeo<\/a> (via <a href=\"https:\/\/wormsandviruses.com\/2022\/08\/a-relationship-with-strings-attached\/\">Jack Wellborn<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/gadgets\/2022\/08\/new-google-site-begs-apple-for-mercy-in-messaging-war\/\"><p>Google has <a href=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/gadgets\/2022\/01\/after-ruining-android-messaging-google-says-imessage-is-too-powerful\/\">been pushing<\/a> this strategy since the beginning of the year, but coming from the company with <a href=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/gadgets\/2021\/08\/a-decade-and-a-half-of-instability-the-history-of-google-messaging-apps\/\">the world&rsquo;s most dysfunctional<\/a> messaging strategy, it just comes across as a company tired of reaping what it has been sowing.<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>RCS has hung around so long and is still so poorly implemented because it was created by the carriers (through the GSMA) as a carrier-centric messaging standard. Carriers did this in the heyday of pay-per-message SMS, when carrier messaging was a real revenue stream. Now that carrier messaging is commoditized though, the carriers in control of RCS <a href=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/gadgets\/2021\/04\/verizon-att-and-t-mobile-kill-their-cross-carrier-rcs-messaging-plans\/\">don&rsquo;t have an incentive<\/a> to care about RCS. RCS is a zombie spec.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/davemark\/status\/1557330055382065152\">Dave Mark<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/davemark\/status\/1557330055382065152\">\n<p>What is the down side to RCS?<\/p>\n<p>I get why Apple doesn&rsquo;t want RCS (walled garden, green vs blue bubbles differentiator, etc), but is there a technical downside to switching to RCS?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mattbirchler\/status\/1557369051822886912\">Matt Birchler<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mattbirchler\/status\/1557369051822886912\">\n<p>The thing for me is that everyone who is railing against Apple adding support for RCS are saying it&rsquo;s because it&rsquo;s not as good as iMessage, but that&rsquo;s not what it&rsquo;s replacing&#8230;it&rsquo;s better for everyone than SMS, which I think is the better comparison.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/07\/06\/eu-approves-digital-markets-act-and-digital-services-act\/\">EU Approves Digital Markets Act and Digital Services Act<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/01\/11\/blue-bubble-envy-is-real\/\">Blue Bubble Envy Is Real<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/06\/22\/google-messages-adds-end-to-end-encryption\/\">Google Messages Adds End-to-End Encryption<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/04\/09\/why-theres-no-imessage-for-android\/\">Why There&rsquo;s No iMessage for Android<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/01\/14\/reminder-imessage-not-meaningfully-e2e\/\">Reminder: iMessage Not Meaningfully E2E<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"time-for-apple-to-fix-texting-update-2022-08-11\">Update (2022-08-11): <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/backlon\/status\/1557102540172435458\">Dieter Bohn<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/backlon\/status\/1557102540172435458\">\n<p>SMS\/MMS are bad for texting on any platform, so Google worked with carriers to fix it. Yes, it&rsquo;s been messy - it&rsquo;s a hard problem. But sunsetting SMS\/MMS and replacing it with something better is what&rsquo;s right for users.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rustyshelf\/status\/1557635722395684864\">Russell Ivanovic<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rustyshelf\/status\/1557635722395684864\">\n<p>SMS sucks bad. RCS sucks way less. Yes a dedicated end to end encrypted messaging app is better, but RCS is a good step forward.<\/p>\n<p>The world would be a better place if Apple implemented it, period.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"time-for-apple-to-fix-texting-update-2022-09-08\">Update (2022-09-08): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2022\/09\/08\/tim-cook-on-ios-rcs-buy-your-mom-an-iphone\/\">Sami Fathi<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=32765508\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2022\/09\/08\/tim-cook-on-ios-rcs-buy-your-mom-an-iphone\/\"><p>During a panel at Kara Swisher&rsquo;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2022\/09\/07\/cook-ive-powell-jobs-code-conference-2022\/\">final Code Conference yesterday<\/a>, Cook was asked why iOS has not yet adopted support for the RCS standard and how Steve Jobs would feel about it (via <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2022\/9\/7\/23342243\/tim-cook-apple-rcs-imessage-android-iphone-compatibility\">The Verge<\/a><\/em>), despite repeated calls from the industry for the company to do so. &ldquo;I don&rsquo;t hear our users asking that we put a lot of energy in on that at this point,&rdquo; Cook said in response to the question.<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>The reporter who asked the question pushed Cook on his response, saying he and his mother find it difficult to send photos and videos to each other because she uses an Android while they use an  iPhone. &ldquo;Buy your mom an  iPhone,&rdquo; Cook told the reporter who posied the situation.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"time-for-apple-to-fix-texting-update-2022-10-06\">Update (2022-10-06): <a href=\"https:\/\/9to5google.com\/2022\/09\/28\/apple-imessage-reactions-android\/\">Abner Li<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/9to5google.com\/2022\/09\/28\/apple-imessage-reactions-android\/\">\n<p>Before Google&rsquo;s &ldquo;Get The Message&rdquo; campaign in August, Android&rsquo;s Messages app was updated with iMessage reactions at the start of this year. In a very weird turn of events, Apple appears to be taking credit for Google adding iMessage reactions on Android.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"time-for-apple-to-fix-texting-update-2022-12-05\">Update (2022-12-05): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2022\/12\/02\/google-again-pushes-apple-to-adopt-rcs\/\">Juli Clover<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2022\/12\/02\/google-again-pushes-apple-to-adopt-rcs\/\"><p>Google&rsquo;s <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.google\/products\/messages\/happy-birthday-sms\/\">new blog post<\/a> points out that this week marks the 30th anniversary of the SMS messaging standard, as the first SMS message was sent on December 3, 1992. Google argues that it&rsquo;s time for an update, calling out Apple for &ldquo;dragging its heels.&rdquo;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"time-for-apple-to-fix-texting-update-2023-06-02\">Update (2023-06-02): <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.blaede.family\/@cassidy\/110470316801332954\">Cassidy James<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.blaede.family\/@cassidy\/110470316801332954\">\n<p>even without e2ee to start, RCS would be leaps and bounds better of an experience ON BOTH ENDS than SMS. Apple absolutely is holding back the experience and only they can decide to support RCS.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.blaede.family\/@cassidy\/110470656470938888\">\n<p>messages would ultimately arrive in a Google-owned messaging client with a phone number and the message contents, exactly like they do today with SMS. Except with SMS, everyone in between can also read the contents in clear text, whereas even without e2ee, RCS message contents are encrypted similar to how HTTPS works. So it&rsquo;s still a massive improvement. Plus typing indicators, full quality video, reactions, etc.<\/p>\n<p>There&rsquo;s no excuse for Apple to use SMS but NOT RCS.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.blaede.family\/@cassidy\/110474884867879950\">\n<p>as it stands, Apple knows any messages sent to anyone but an iPhone are sent in the clear, with a worse experience. They could, idk, work with the GSMA to enable end-to-end encryption in RCS if they cared. But they care about their marketing image, not securing actual communications.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/mastodon.blaede.family\/@cassidy\/110470813774164378\">\n<p>We both know they enjoy the twisted perception of non-Apple phones being inferior at messaging because they themselves are refusing to improve things.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, Apple continues to reverse blue-bubble themselves where Android users now have nice rich messaging ootb, until an iPhone user joins and ruins it for everyone.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Android (MacRumors, Hacker News): It&rsquo;s not about the color of the bubbles. It&rsquo;s the blurry videos, broken group chats, missing read receipts and typing indicators, no texting over Wi-Fi, and more. These problems exist because Apple refuses to adopt modern texting standards when people with iPhones and Android phones text each other. 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