{"id":36683,"date":"2022-08-05T16:31:36","date_gmt":"2022-08-05T20:31:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=36683"},"modified":"2022-08-05T16:31:54","modified_gmt":"2022-08-05T20:31:54","slug":"amd-vs-intel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/08\/05\/amd-vs-intel\/","title":{"rendered":"AMD vs. Intel"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/danluu\/status\/1555343411229536257\">Dan Luu<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/danluu\/status\/1555343411229536257\"><p>Looks like AMD passed Intel in market cap last Friday, after being fairly close for quite a while.<\/p><p>The majority of comments I&rsquo;ve seen are betting on AMD, but I&rsquo;d bet, at even odds, ten years from today, the 1-month trailing average market cap of Intel is higher than AMD&rsquo;s.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>I think Intel will be ok if it can recover to 2010-levels of dysfunction while it&rsquo;s much larger than AMD in revenue\/scale.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/stratechery.com\/2022\/political-chips\/\">Ben Thompson<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/stratechery.com\/2022\/political-chips\/\">\n<p>While there are a host of reasons why TSMC took the performance crown from Intel over the last five years, a major factor is scale: TSMC was making so many chips that it had the money and motivation to invest in Moore&rsquo;s Law.<\/p>\n<p>The most important decision was shifting to extreme ultraviolet lithography at a time when Intel thought it was much too expensive and difficult to implement; TSMC, backed by Apple&rsquo;s commitment to buy the best chips it could make, committed to EUV <a href=\"https:\/\/pr.tsmc.com\/english\/news\/1604\">in 2014<\/a>, and delivered the first EUV-derived chips <a href=\"https:\/\/pr.tsmc.com\/english\/news\/2010\">in 2019<\/a> for the iPhone.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Time will tell if the CHIPS Act achieves its intended goals; the final version did, as I hoped, explicitly limit investment by recipients in China, which is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/0b997942-93bd-4a67-9784-928af2641738\">already leading chip makers to rethink their investments<\/a>. That this is warping the chip market is, in fact, the point: the structure of technology drives inexorably towards the most economically efficient outcomes, but the ultimate end state will increasingly be a matter of politics.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>See also: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ditheringfm\/status\/1554451959469510657\">Dithering<\/a>.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dan Luu: Looks like AMD passed Intel in market cap last Friday, after being fairly close for quite a while.The majority of comments I&rsquo;ve seen are betting on AMD, but I&rsquo;d bet, at even odds, ten years from today, the 1-month trailing average market cap of Intel is higher than AMD&rsquo;s. 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