{"id":36422,"date":"2022-07-05T11:39:34","date_gmt":"2022-07-05T15:39:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=36422"},"modified":"2022-08-29T11:54:57","modified_gmt":"2022-08-29T15:54:57","slug":"m2-mac-thermal-concerns","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/07\/05\/m2-mac-thermal-concerns\/","title":{"rendered":"M2 Mac Thermal Concerns"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/VadimYuryev\/status\/1542188250697039872\">Vadim Yuryev<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=pc8Wi5EWQx0\">video<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/VadimYuryev\/status\/1542188250697039872\">\n<p>We discovered SEVERE thermal throttling with Apple&rsquo;s new M2 MacBook Pro, proving that it needs a BETTER cooling system with two fans instead of one. \nWe exported 8K Canon RAW and saw temps hit 108&deg;C, more than we&rsquo;ve ever seen on a Mac, even an Intel Mac.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>The fan was maxed out at 7200RPM the ENTIRE time, so there was nothing the MacBook Pro could do to cool itself down except for HEAVILY throttle down the M2 chip. This led to much worse performance than the M1 Pro chip, which didn&rsquo;t have to max out its fans.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Via <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marcoarment\/status\/1543236226928574466\">Marco Arment<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marcoarment\/status\/1543236226928574466\">\n<p>This is concerning if it&rsquo;s not a fluke.<\/p>\n<p>It suggests that M2 thermal load is higher than M1 by enough to warrant different cooling needs (and different buying decisions) if your workload heavily stresses the GPU.<\/p>\n<p>Curious about the Air. 30W seems like too much to passively cool.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/06\/06\/13-inch-macbook-pro-2022\/\">13-inch MacBook Pro 2022<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/06\/06\/macbook-air-2022\/\">MacBook Air 2022<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"m2-mac-thermal-concerns-update-2022-07-06\">Update (2022-07-06): See also: <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=31990099\">Hacker<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=31941326\">News<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/every_daydad\/status\/1542534316433068033\">Gary<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=FWfJq0Y4Oos\">Hardware Unboxed<\/a> have not been able to reproduce the problem.<\/p>\n\n<p>Update (2022-07-10): See also: <a href=\"https:\/\/atp.fm\/490\">Accidental Tech Podcast<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n<p id=\"m2-mac-thermal-concerns-update-2022-08-29\">Update (2022-08-29): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=oCtYBqcN7QE\">Snazzy Labs<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=oCtYBqcN7QE\">\n<p>The M2 MacBook Air launched to a lot of dramatic hullabaloo&mdash;reports of thermal throttling and a slow SSD were just a few of the controversies that befell the redesigned fan-favorite. We&rsquo;ve found some of the complaints to be credible, many to be false, and generally find ourselves in love with this little machine.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Vadim Yuryev (video): We discovered SEVERE thermal throttling with Apple&rsquo;s new M2 MacBook Pro, proving that it needs a BETTER cooling system with two fans instead of one. We exported 8K Canon RAW and saw temps hit 108&deg;C, more than we&rsquo;ve ever seen on a Mac, even an Intel Mac. 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