{"id":36300,"date":"2022-06-22T16:44:09","date_gmt":"2022-06-22T20:44:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=36300"},"modified":"2023-01-19T16:00:06","modified_gmt":"2023-01-19T21:00:06","slug":"limiting-imessages-disk-usage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/06\/22\/limiting-imessages-disk-usage\/","title":{"rendered":"Limiting iMessage&rsquo;s Disk Usage"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/stroughtonsmith\/status\/1539674844551417858\">Steve Troughton-Smith<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/stroughtonsmith\/status\/1539674844551417858\">\n<p>It blows my mind that Apple lets Messages-in-the-cloud suck up all the available local storage without giving you any real way to cap or reduce its size on disk without deleting the masters in iCloud. Can&rsquo;t uninstall either. This is the real scam making 64GB iPads unworkable.<\/p>\n<p>This bs is literally an OS upgrade blocker, would prevent you from getting security updates.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I ran into this recently as well. There are some controls in Settings to delete <strong>Top Conversations<\/strong> or <strong>Photos<\/strong>\/<strong>Videos<\/strong> attachments, but those delete the content from Messages in iCloud, too. What if you just want to prune the local cache?<\/p>\n<p>If you do decide to delete select attachments completely using Settings, I&rsquo;ve found this to be buggy. After deleting some items, the list doesn&rsquo;t refresh to show more, so you can&rsquo;t delete any more even though there are still GBs on the phone.<\/p>\n<p>Deleting from the Mac is also buggy. You can open a conversation&rsquo;s info and bulk-select thumbnails&mdash;much easier than on an iPhone&mdash;but pressing Delete doesn&rsquo;t actually bulk-delete them. It seems to only delete one attachment, and not always the first one selected.<\/p>\n<p>The only reliable way that I&rsquo;ve found to prune Message&rsquo;s storage use is to set it to only <strong>Keep Messages<\/strong> for <strong>One Year<\/strong>. (It would be nice to be able to keep a bit more conversation history, but the only longer option is <strong>Forever<\/strong>.) Plain text messages, which take up very little space, get deleted, too, even though you really only wanted to free up space by deleting large attachments. And the messages are removed from the cloud and all devices, not just from the one that had limited storage.<\/p>\n<p>What if you want to make a backup before deleting them from your iPhone&mdash;which will, via syncing, also delete them from your Mac? The Messages app has no export feature. There used to be a limited feature for automatically saving chat transcripts, but this was never in the iOS version, and Apple removed it from the Mac version when rewriting Messages using Catalyst.<\/p>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/05\/31\/the-difficulty-of-accessing-old-imessages\/\">The Difficulty of Accessing Old iMessages<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2018\/09\/25\/photos-needs-better-storage-management\/\">Photos Needs Better Storage Management<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"limiting-imessages-disk-usage-update-2023-01-19\">Update (2023-01-19): <a href=\"https:\/\/pxlnv.com\/blog\/disk-usage-and-icloud-for-messages\/\">Nick Heer<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/c.im\/@nickheer\/109712301248196958\">Mastodon<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/pxlnv.com\/blog\/disk-usage-and-icloud-for-messages\/\">\n<p>When I checked the iPad Storage menu, I saw the biggest source of my disk space problems: over 11 GB used by Messages.<\/p>\n<p>This makes no sense. I do not often use Messages on my iPad. I have iCloud for Messages enabled, so my device should only be downloading messages and attachments as needed.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>As written, this sounds like it is a way to control the cache of messages downloaded to your device. If &ldquo;30 days&rdquo; is selected, you should see only the past month&rsquo;s worth of messages on your device and anything older than that will need to be downloaded on demand. But it is so much worse than that: because it syncs, it actually erases <em>all messages in iCloud<\/em> older than thirty days &mdash; permanently. This is the only warning you will get.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>[There] are no controls for managing iCloud for Messages. There is no way to purge the local cache from one device without those changes syncing across all devices. The only way I was able to install this software update was to restore my iPad and set it up from scratch.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Steve Troughton-Smith: It blows my mind that Apple lets Messages-in-the-cloud suck up all the available local storage without giving you any real way to cap or reduce its size on disk without deleting the masters in iCloud. Can&rsquo;t uninstall either. This is the real scam making 64GB iPads unworkable. 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