{"id":35865,"date":"2022-05-12T14:14:09","date_gmt":"2022-05-12T18:14:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=35865"},"modified":"2025-04-08T09:53:56","modified_gmt":"2025-04-08T13:53:56","slug":"the-apple-services-experience-is-not-good-enough","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/05\/12\/the-apple-services-experience-is-not-good-enough\/","title":{"rendered":"The Apple Services Experience Is Not Good Enough"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/bzamayo.com\/need-better-services\">Benjamin Mayo<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/bzamayo.com\/need-better-services\">\n<p>Apple&rsquo;s services tick the boxes, and they mostly do what they promise. However, nothing comes close to the quality of experience I expect to have from things branded with the Apple logo. When I am using these apps, I am not filled with confidence that striving for greatness was a top priority. Far too often, meeting revenue goals and business objectives seem more important to their creation.<\/p>\n<p>They are built to a passing grade, but nothing more. Basic features found in services from rival companies are either lacking altogether in Apple&rsquo;s apps, or implemented half-heartedly and performance is sluggish. Browsing in Music and TV is painful, with an over-reliance on the infinite scroll. New content is just tacked on the bottom of already long lists. Meanwhile, the navigation bars are blank when they could include simple shortcut buttons and filters to help users navigate and explore. Moreover, these apps feature too many loading states and too much waiting around. They are akin to janky web apps, rather than richly-compelling responsive experiences.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The services apps are all frustrating to use. In may ways, they feel worse than Web apps. I cannot believe how Apple has let them regress so much. I miss iTunes from 15 years ago. Looking through movies in the TV app the other day: there is no way to see a sorted list of titles. There&rsquo;s no way to search my list of purchases, nor even to jump-scroll by letter. There is no way to mark a movie on my iPhone so that I can easily find it again on my Apple TV. I guess I could start playing it for a few seconds to make it appear in Up Next? But I don&rsquo;t want to download it onto my phone, and the sideways scrolling Up Next list is hard to work with and also includes the things that I&rsquo;m <em>currently<\/em> watching. Why does it scroll sideways? I guess so that the rest of the screen can be used to promote Apple TV+ content.<\/p>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/03\/11\/which-nas-for-a-mac\/#comment-3645095\">Which NAS for a Mac?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/02\/21\/an-unsolicited-streaming-app-spec\/\">An Unsolicited Streaming App Spec<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/12\/17\/apple-music-feedback-made-it-to-cook\/\">Apple Music Feedback Made It to Cook<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/12\/16\/music-app-and-tv-app-use-jet-in-macos-12-2-beta\/\">Music.app and TV.app Use JET in macOS 12.2 Beta<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/04\/05\/apple-music-macos-review\/\">Apple Music macOS Review<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/09\/10\/a-step-back\/\">A Step Back<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/02\/17\/the-paywalled-garden-ios-is-adware\/\">The Paywalled Garden: iOS Is Adware<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/10\/21\/itunes-xml-and-music-in-catalina\/\">iTunes XML and Music in Catalina<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/06\/04\/music-app-on-macos-10-15\/\">Music.app on macOS 10.15<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/05\/14\/ios-12-3s-tv-app\/\">iOS 12.3&rsquo;s TV App<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/04\/10\/macos-10-15-to-break-up-itunes\/\">macOS 10.15 to Break Up iTunes<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2017\/10\/19\/the-sad-state-of-ios-11s-tv-app\/\">The Sad State of iOS 11&rsquo;s TV App<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"the-apple-services-experience-is-not-good-enough-update-2022-05-13\">Update (2022-05-13): <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/CraigGrannell\/status\/1524829488105807877\">Craig Grannell<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/CraigGrannell\/status\/1524829488105807877\">\n<ul>\n<li>Going into Albums view in Photos on iPhone and dragging up to prompt photos to actually upload<\/li>\n<li>Regularly force-quitting bird in Activity Monitor to get iCloud docs to sync<\/li>\n<li>Restarting Music to get streaming to play<\/li><\/ul>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bhansmeyer\/status\/1525133425115598849\">Becky Hansmeyer<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/bhansmeyer\/status\/1525133425115598849\">\n<p>There is downloaded, on-device video content in the TV app on my kids&rsquo; iPads that they literally cannot access without an internet connection. I have to tether their iPads to my phone in the car to get their library to appear. Otherwise it just shows an empty state.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/initialcharge.net\/2022\/05\/apple-services-subpar-experience\/\">Mike Rockwell<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/initialcharge.net\/2022\/05\/apple-services-subpar-experience\/\">\n<p>I maintain an old Mac Mini that runs El Capitan and an even older iMac that runs Snow Leopard. iTunes is so much better on those older machines than the current state of the TV app, Apple Music, and Apple Podcasts.<\/p>\n<p>My current pet peeve is the Podcast app&rsquo;s lack of OPML export or import. What a terrible, user-hostile omission.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"the-apple-services-experience-is-not-good-enough-update-2022-05-24\">Update (2022-05-24): <a href=\"https:\/\/pxlnv.com\/linklog\/apple-services-not-good-enough\/\">Nick Heer<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/pxlnv.com\/linklog\/apple-services-not-good-enough\/\">\n<p>Apple&rsquo;s native apps on these devices simply are not good enough, and that is bananas. The company&rsquo;s whole <em>thing<\/em> is that it makes the entire widget, so hardware, software, and services can work seamlessly together. But they do not. They feel brittle, like I am using prototypes where any deviation from a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2013\/10\/06\/magazine\/and-then-steve-said-let-there-be-an-iphone.html\">golden path<\/a> is a risky endeavour.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"the-apple-services-experience-is-not-good-enough-update-2022-06-06\">Update (2022-06-06): <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.nephics.se\/2022\/06\/04\/apple-music\/\">Jacob Svensson<\/a> (via <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=31618746\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/blog.nephics.se\/2022\/06\/04\/apple-music\/\"><p>There is no other software that I use and pay for that can compare to Apple Music when it comes to severe bugs and annoyances. The worst of the Apple Music clients is that on macOS.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"the-apple-services-experience-is-not-good-enough-update-2023-07-26\">Update (2023-07-26): <a href=\"https:\/\/iosdev.space\/@sanguish\/110737993993772446\">Scott Anguish<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/iosdev.space\/@sanguish\/110737993993772446\">\n<p>The iTunes movie app (and the Tv app for that matter) are a nightmare to use when you have almost 900 movies.<\/p>\n<p>Let me make playlists so I can group sequels<br \/>\nLet me see how many times I&rsquo;ve watched something<br \/>\nLet me make a queue of things to  watch that I own<br \/>\nLet me have a smart list of movies I&rsquo;ve never watched<br \/>\nLet me categorize them (apple&rsquo;s categorization is not the greatest)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/pdx.social\/@louie\/110771606141144584\">Louie Mantia, Jr.<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/pdx.social\/@louie\/110771606141144584\"><p>I&rsquo;m gonna say it&mdash; this app is poorly designed. That the content <em>you are actively interested in<\/em> is below this <em>enormous<\/em> ad is unconscionable for Apple. It is against their very ethos as a company, and I wish they would reconsider what the &ldquo;Watch Now&rdquo; tab really should be doing.<\/p><p>The amount of advertising for content I <em>do not care about<\/em> in this app is astoundingly high.<\/p><p>I do not give a fuck about Lionel Messi. I don&rsquo;t care about the MLS. I don&rsquo;t care about Hijack. There&rsquo;s only two things on this page that I want to exist, and those are the smallest things on the whole page.<\/p><p>Sometimes, the Watch Now tab will even use that enormous space up top to advertise a show <em>they know<\/em> I have watched in its entirety, like Ted Lasso.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/indieweb.social\/@stevestreza\/110748252307101502\">Steve Streza<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/indieweb.social\/@stevestreza\/110748252307101502\"><p>Deeply frustrating that &ldquo;buying in to the Apple ecosystem&rdquo; turned into an effectively abandoned set of music apps that exist now only to upsell you into yet another rental.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/03\/06\/ios-announcements-and-offers\/\">iOS Announcements and Offers<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"the-apple-services-experience-is-not-good-enough-update-2023-12-08\">Update (2023-12-08): <a href=\"https:\/\/joe-steel.com\/2023-11-08-Nervous-Energy.html\">Joe Rosensteel<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/joe-steel.com\/2023-11-08-Nervous-Energy.html\">\n<p>I tried Apple News, and Apple News+, and both suck. Mostly the app is trash. It&rsquo;s weird to think that LAT, a struggling newspaper, has a better app than one of the most profitable companies to ever exist. Things like forcing you to see stories from publishers you&rsquo;ve blocked, because of some weird editorial desire to appear objective and fair. Completely irrelevant listicles from third-rate content farms.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Benjamin Mayo: Apple&rsquo;s services tick the boxes, and they mostly do what they promise. However, nothing comes close to the quality of experience I expect to have from things branded with the Apple logo. When I am using these apps, I am not filled with confidence that striving for greatness was a top priority. 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