{"id":33076,"date":"2021-07-08T12:05:56","date_gmt":"2021-07-08T16:05:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=33076"},"modified":"2021-07-15T15:35:52","modified_gmt":"2021-07-15T19:35:52","slug":"microsofts-april-1998-meeting-with-steve-jobs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/07\/08\/microsofts-april-1998-meeting-with-steve-jobs\/","title":{"rendered":"Microsoft&rsquo;s April 1998 Meeting With Steve Jobs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TechEmails\/status\/1412448981574209537\">Internal Tech Emails<\/a> has an interesting letter from Microsoft&rsquo;s Ben Waldman that discusses negotiations over ClarisWorks (Apple agreed not to advertise their own product and instead preload a video promoting Microsoft Office), QuickTime, and Internet Explorer (bundling and promoting it in exchange for Microsoft having it ready when Mac OS X shipped).<\/p>\n<p>The meeting took place the month before WWDC, where Apple would announce that Rhapsody was becoming Mac OS X and that Carbon would be added. Waldman writes:<\/p><blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TechEmails\/status\/1412448981574209537\"><p>Of course, this won&rsquo;t be positioned as Rhapsody cancellation -- they&rsquo;ll say that you&rsquo;ll still have OpenStep\/Yellow Box, and be able to\nrun it on Windows, and on MacOS, except that will be one year later, and that Apple will do the &ldquo;right thing&rdquo; and preserve peoples&rsquo;\ninvestment in MacOS, while still providing an advanced UI runtime for people who want it (and it will still be accessible from Java).\nWhile Rhapsody required developers to do a lot of work to get pre-emption and protection, in this scenario, Apple does &ldquo;95% of the\nwork.&rdquo; Later, however, in a smaller group, I asked Steve point blank if he&rsquo;d ever believed in Rhapsody, and he said &ldquo;no,&rdquo; adding\nsomething about his duty being to NeXT shareholders.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The way I&rsquo;ve heard the story told before, Carbon wasn&rsquo;t part of the plan until Scott Forstall argued for it after key developers rebelled at the idea of rewriting in Cocoa. But perhaps something like that was always at the back of Jobs&rsquo; mind. It&rsquo;s not clear to me when work on it started.<\/p>\n<p>At the time, Apple apparently hoped to get Mac OS X running on PowerPC 604 Macs with 32 MB of RAM, but it <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Mac_OS_X_10.0\">officially<\/a> shipped requiring at least a G3 and 128 MB of RAM.<\/p>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/03\/24\/mac-os-x-at-20\/\">Mac OS X at 20<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"microsofts-april-1998-meeting-with-steve-jobs-update-2021-07-15\">Update (2021-07-15): See also: <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=27840752\">Hacker News<\/a>.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Internal Tech Emails has an interesting letter from Microsoft&rsquo;s Ben Waldman that discusses negotiations over ClarisWorks (Apple agreed not to advertise their own product and instead preload a video promoting Microsoft Office), QuickTime, and Internet Explorer (bundling and promoting it in exchange for Microsoft having it ready when Mac OS X shipped). 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