{"id":32692,"date":"2021-06-03T16:36:34","date_gmt":"2021-06-03T20:36:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=32692"},"modified":"2021-06-03T16:36:34","modified_gmt":"2021-06-03T20:36:34","slug":"web-apps-in-epic-v-apple","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/06\/03\/web-apps-in-epic-v-apple\/","title":{"rendered":"Web Apps in Epic v. Apple"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/thedextriarchy\/status\/1389701196944920580\">Adi Robertson<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/thedextriarchy\/status\/1389701196944920580\"><p>For Apple it&rsquo;s a win if Nvidia is providing an amazing service through the Safari browser outside the App Store, obviously. &ldquo;Has Apple done anything to stop Nvidia from offering GeForce Now on Safari?&rdquo; lawyer asks. Patel says no.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/reckless\/status\/1389719371187167241\">Nilay Patel<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/reckless\/status\/1389719371187167241\"><p>Apple is basically making the argument that web apps are a good competitor to native apps, which, well&#8230; they are not. Famously they are a &ldquo;shit sandwich,&rdquo; according to @gruber<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2021\/5\/6\/22421912\/iphone-web-app-pwa-cloud-gaming-epic-v-apple-safari\">Dieter Bohn and Tom Warren<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2021\/5\/6\/22421912\/iphone-web-app-pwa-cloud-gaming-epic-v-apple-safari\">\n<p>Though the term itself hasn&rsquo;t really come up explicitly, what&rsquo;s being discussed are Progressive Web Apps, or PWAs. If you&rsquo;re unfamiliar, think of them as slightly more advanced web apps that you can &ldquo;install&rdquo; directly from your web browser onto your home screen. Google has been pushing the idea (though support for PWAs on its own platforms is a little mixed), and some companies like Microsoft and Twitter have wholeheartedly embraced PWAs.<\/p>\n<p>Not Apple, though. There are a variety of reasons for that &mdash; ranging from genuine concern about giving web pages too much access to device hardware to the simple fact that even Apple can&rsquo;t do everything. There&rsquo;s also the suspicion that Apple is deliberately dragging its feet on support for features that make PWAs better as a way to drive developers to its App Store instead.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>All of this is compounded by yet another Apple policy: no third-party browser engines. You can install apps like Chrome, Firefox, Brave, DuckDuckGo, and others on the iPhone &mdash; but fundamentally they&rsquo;re all just skins on top of Apple&rsquo;s WebKit engine. That means that Apple&rsquo;s decisions on what web features to support on Safari are final. If Apple were to find a way to be comfortable letting competing web browsers run their own browser engines, a lot of this tension would dissipate.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/infrequently.org\/2021\/04\/progress-delayed\/\">Alex Russell<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/infrequently.org\/2021\/04\/progress-delayed\/\">\n<p>Apple&rsquo;s iOS browser (Safari) and engine (WebKit) are uniquely under-powered. Consistent delays in the delivery of important features ensure the web can never be a credible alternative to its proprietary tools and App Store.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/05\/05\/epic-v-apple-day-2\/\">Epic v. Apple, Day 2<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/03\/27\/multiple-alternative-channels\/\">Multiple Alternative Channels<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/11\/18\/the-hotel-cupertino-clause\/\">The Hotel Cupertino Clause<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Adi Robertson: For Apple it&rsquo;s a win if Nvidia is providing an amazing service through the Safari browser outside the App Store, obviously. &ldquo;Has Apple done anything to stop Nvidia from offering GeForce Now on Safari?&rdquo; lawyer asks. Patel says no. Nilay Patel: Apple is basically making the argument that web apps are a good [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2021-06-03T20:36:38Z","apple_news_api_id":"7630c25d-7350-48eb-8790-143427c4a307","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2021-06-03T20:36:38Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAD\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/w==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/AdjDCXXNQSOuHkBQ0J8SjBw","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[1969,31,1837,41,209,103,96,328],"class_list":["post-32692","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-epic","tag-ios","tag-ios-14","tag-lawsuit","tag-legal","tag-safari","tag-web","tag-webkit"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32692","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=32692"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32692\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":32693,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32692\/revisions\/32693"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=32692"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=32692"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=32692"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}