{"id":32403,"date":"2021-05-06T16:53:48","date_gmt":"2021-05-06T20:53:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=32403"},"modified":"2021-06-18T07:04:36","modified_gmt":"2021-06-18T11:04:36","slug":"epic-v-apple-day-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/05\/06\/epic-v-apple-day-3\/","title":{"rendered":"Epic v. Apple, Day 3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2021\/5\/5\/22421570\/epic-apple-trial-iphone-xbox-console-specific-general-purpose-pc-testimony-day-3\">Adi Robertson<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/thedextriarchy\/status\/1389955322102652931\">tweet<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2021\/5\/5\/22421570\/epic-apple-trial-iphone-xbox-console-specific-general-purpose-pc-testimony-day-3\">\n<p>Is an iPhone more like a PC or an Xbox?<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Epic called up Microsoft&rsquo;s Xbox business development head Lori Wright as a sympathetic witness. In response to a line of questioning, Wright divided computing devices into &ldquo;special-purpose&rdquo; and &ldquo;general-purpose&rdquo; devices &mdash; in a way that clearly defined iPhones as the latter.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>It&rsquo;s hard to call the iPhone anything but a general-purpose device under Wright&rsquo;s definition. (She described a &ldquo;special-purpose&rdquo; Apple product as something like an iPod.) Intentionally or not, Wright also linked the distinction to one of Epic&rsquo;s major talking points: profit.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.protocol.com\/microsoft-confirms-the-xbox-hardware-business-loses-money\">Nick Statt<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.protocol.com\/microsoft-confirms-the-xbox-hardware-business-loses-money\"><p>&ldquo;We sell the consoles at a loss,&rdquo; Wright said. Asked why Microsoft would continue to do this, Wright elaborated that Xbox business model involves selling hardware at a loss and subsidizing it with game sales and subscription services, in this case to services such as Xbox Live Gold and Xbox Game Pass. The goal is to serve an &ldquo;end-to-end consumer experience.&rdquo; When asked if Microsoft has ever earned a profit on the sale of an Xbox device, Wright said no.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/thedextriarchy\/status\/1389987892613812226\">Adi Robertson<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/thedextriarchy\/status\/1389987892613812226\"><p>Wright says Spotify has many songs and Netflix has many films. &ldquo;Why could we not have a single app with many games?&rdquo; Microsoft spent 3-4 months trying to &ldquo;understand what this was.&rdquo;<\/p><p>Microsoft decided the logistics didn&rsquo;t work &mdash; if you wanted to push an update, for instance, every single game in the catalog would have to update. &ldquo;All your apps would just be constantly spinning.&rdquo;<\/p><p>If Microsoft took a game from the catalog, the way Netflix does,  &ldquo;there&rsquo;d be a dead app on the phone. We thought this was a really inelegant way for players to experience this.&rdquo;<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>Apple&rsquo;s lawyer is not necessarily in the wrong here but is coming off as being pretty snide &mdash; asking next if Wright is aware the App Store had guidelines.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Of course, Apple didn&rsquo;t change the guidelines to ban xCloud until after Microsoft had submitted it.<\/p>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/05\/05\/epic-v-apple-day-2\/\">Epic v. Apple, Day 2<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/04\/19\/microsoft-xcloud-for-ios-launching-soon\/\">Microsoft xCloud for iOS Launching Soon<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/08\/18\/app-consoles\/\">App Consoles<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/08\/05\/microsofts-xcloud-unavailable-on-ios\/\">Microsoft&rsquo;s xCloud Unavailable on iOS<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Adi Robertson (tweet): Is an iPhone more like a PC or an Xbox? [&#8230;] Epic called up Microsoft&rsquo;s Xbox business development head Lori Wright as a sympathetic witness. In response to a line of questioning, Wright divided computing devices into &ldquo;special-purpose&rdquo; and &ldquo;general-purpose&rdquo; devices &mdash; in a way that clearly defined iPhones as the latter. 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