{"id":31229,"date":"2021-01-04T16:50:52","date_gmt":"2021-01-04T21:50:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=31229"},"modified":"2021-01-06T16:22:59","modified_gmt":"2021-01-06T21:22:59","slug":"project-monarch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2021\/01\/04\/project-monarch\/","title":{"rendered":"Project Monarch"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.windowscentral.com\/project-monarch-outlook-web-universal-email-client-microsoft\">Zac Bowden<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.windowscentral.com\/project-monarch-outlook-web-universal-email-client-microsoft\"><p>Project Monarch is the end-goal for Microsoft&rsquo;s <a href=\"https:\/\/myignite.microsoft.com\/sessions\/c8878f6d-076b-4d24-a15a-4406a3d36d19\">&ldquo;One Outlook&rdquo; vision<\/a>, which aims to build a single Outlook client that works across PC, Mac, and the Web. Right now, Microsoft has a number of different Outlook clients for desktop, including Outlook Web, Outlook (Win32) for Windows, Outlook for Mac, and Mail &amp; Calendar on Windows 10.<\/p><p>Microsoft wants to replace the existing desktop clients with one app built with web technologies. The project will deliver Outlook as a single product, with the same user experience and codebase whether that be on Windows or Mac.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Via <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/stroughtonsmith\/status\/1346116019727818753\">Steve Troughton-Smith<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/stroughtonsmith\/status\/1346116019727818753\">\n<p>Sad to see Microsoft consciously eroding its native platforms, drawn to the idea of a local ecosystem full of web apps like a moth to a flame.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/09\/22\/new-look-outlook-shipping-in-october\/\">&ldquo;New Look&rdquo; Outlook Shipping in October<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2018\/12\/07\/electron-and-the-decline-of-native-apps\/\">Electron and the Decline of Native Apps<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"project-monarch-update-2021-01-05\">Update (2021-01-05): <a href=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2021\/01\/04\/bowden-outlook\">John Gruber<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2021\/01\/04\/bowden-outlook\">\n<p>I have no idea how big the &ldquo;footprint&rdquo; is for the current Mac Outlook app, but if it&rsquo;s based on Electron how could the footprint not be enormous? &ldquo;Hello World&rdquo; in Electron is huge.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Version 16.44 of Mac Outlook is 1.98 GB. The Electron version would only be a fat binary for the non-JavaScript portions, and it would likely remove lots of features and code, so it certainly could be slimmer despite using Electron.<\/p>\n\n<p>See also: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2021\/01\/05\/outlook-for-mac-to-be-replaced-with-new-client\/\">MacRumors<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n<p id=\"project-monarch-update-2021-01-06\">Update (2021-01-06): <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/colincornaby\/status\/1346580914352975873\">Colin Cornaby<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/colincornaby\/status\/1346580914352975873\">\n<p>The Electron runtime is about 1.2 gigs alone combining the Intel and ARM versions. It&rsquo;s so large that Electron apps aren&rsquo;t distributed as universal so far.<\/p>\n<p>Hard to see how it gets slimmer on Mac.<\/p>\n<p>Microsoft&rsquo;s plan on Windows is to build these things against the version of Chromium now built into Windows (via Edge.) So things might get slimmer. On Windows.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/pxlnv.com\/linklog\/project-monarch\/\">Nick Heer<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/pxlnv.com\/linklog\/project-monarch\/\"><p>Some reports have interpreted this as though Microsoft will <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2021\/01\/05\/outlook-for-mac-to-be-replaced-with-new-client\/\">discard<\/a> the Mac app redesign it <a href=\"https:\/\/techcommunity.microsoft.com\/t5\/outlook-blog\/enhanced-performance-designed-for-simplicity-the-new-outlook-for\/ba-p\/1675505\">previewed in September<\/a>. I am not sure that is the case. The new version of Outlook for Mac looks an awful lot like an Electron app already.<\/p>\n\n<p>Like most web apps in a native wrapper, this sounds like a stopgap way of easing cross-platform development at the cost of usability, quality, speed, and platform integration. To be fair, I am not sure that anyone would pitch today&rsquo;s desktop Outlook apps as shining examples of quality or speed, but I spend a lot of time from Monday through Friday in the Outlook web app and it is poor.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Zac Bowden: Project Monarch is the end-goal for Microsoft&rsquo;s &ldquo;One Outlook&rdquo; vision, which aims to build a single Outlook client that works across PC, Mac, and the Web. Right now, Microsoft has a number of different Outlook clients for desktop, including Outlook Web, Outlook (Win32) for Windows, Outlook for Mac, and Mail &amp; Calendar on [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2021-01-04T21:50:55Z","apple_news_api_id":"41b11143-f57c-45e4-8862-84fd87e813fd","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2021-01-06T21:23:04Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQ==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/AQbERQ_V8ReSIYoT9h-gT_Q","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[14,1627,30,32,1605,807],"class_list":["post-31229","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-emailclient","tag-electron","tag-mac","tag-macapp","tag-microsoft-outlook","tag-windows-app"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31229","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=31229"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31229\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":31253,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31229\/revisions\/31253"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=31229"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=31229"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=31229"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}