{"id":30712,"date":"2020-11-17T15:36:31","date_gmt":"2020-11-17T20:36:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=30712"},"modified":"2025-02-12T10:04:20","modified_gmt":"2025-02-12T15:04:20","slug":"big-sur-notifications","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/11\/17\/big-sur-notifications\/","title":{"rendered":"Big Sur Notifications"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.macsparky.com\/blog\/2020\/11\/some-thoughts-on-big-sur\">David Sparks<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.macsparky.com\/blog\/2020\/11\/some-thoughts-on-big-sur\">\n<p>I like the new notification system a lot better than the prior one. Notifications are grouped better. Both notifications and widgets are on the same screen. Widgets also feel more intentional with the new iOS influenced widget system. This has been a win, and I&rsquo;m using Notification Center now more than ever.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>The grouping is nice, but I don&rsquo;t like the invisible close boxes, and&#8230;<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/annoying.technology\/posts\/5bc1e36116ebec43\/\">Philipp Defner<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/annoying.technology\/posts\/5bc1e36116ebec43\/\">\n<p>So many options and yet they are all the same.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>I think Mojave&rsquo;s notification design was better. When a new iMessage came in, there were buttons so that I could quickly reply or mark it as read. Catalina and Big Sur take extra clicks.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marcoarment\/status\/1328408197896482817\">Marco Arment<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marcoarment\/status\/1328408197896482817\"><p>The important actions are now invisible, hidden behind a hover state that requires an extra click (&ldquo;Options&rdquo;).<\/p>\n<p>Why?<\/p>\n<p>I know the cost &mdash; it&rsquo;s slower to use and less discoverable.<\/p>\n<p>What are the benefits that make that cost worthwhile?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/pkamb\/status\/1328409239203635200\">Peter Kamb<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/pkamb\/status\/1328409239203635200\"><p>Wish we could move notifications down 80 pixels... below title bars and tabs.<\/p>\n<p>Would be much less pressing to immediately dismiss them.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/06\/23\/macos-11-0-big-sur-announced\/#macos-11-0-big-sur-announced-update-2020-09-07\">macOS 11.0 Big Sur Announced<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"big-sur-notifications-update-2020-11-20\">Update (2020-11-20): <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/morid1n\/status\/1329093683573100544\">Wojtek Pietrusiewicz<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/morid1n\/status\/1329093683573100544\">\n<p>I implore you to fix Messages and replying from a notification. What used to take 1 click on Mojave or Catalina, now requires 3 clicks. It&rsquo;s actually faster to just open Messages and reply there.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"big-sur-notifications-update-2025-02-12\">Update (2025-02-12): <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/nateparrott.bsky.social\/post\/3lhwliai7ic23\">Nate Parrott<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/nateparrott.bsky.social\/post\/3lhwliai7ic23\"><p>can someone smarter than me explain the logic of macos&rsquo;s notifications UI?<\/p><p>this UI is supposed to be ASKING ME if i want notifications. it took me, like, a year to figure this out<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/eshumarneedi.com\/post\/3lhwlnd7kas22\">Eshu Marneedi<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/eshumarneedi.com\/post\/3lhwlnd7kas22\">\n<p>It&rsquo;s the macOS equivalent of the dialog box that appears on iOS asking a user to enable notifications. On macOS, they&rsquo;re opt-out; on iOS, they&rsquo;re opt-in. But macOS notifications are so terribly designed that you need to hover over them to see the action buttons.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2023\/09\/05\/notification-center-in-sonoma\/\">Notification Center in Sonoma<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2022\/12\/29\/options-in-macos-update-notifications\/\">Options in macOS Update Notifications<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>David Sparks: I like the new notification system a lot better than the prior one. Notifications are grouped better. Both notifications and widgets are on the same screen. Widgets also feel more intentional with the new iOS influenced widget system. This has been a win, and I&rsquo;m using Notification Center now more than ever. 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