{"id":29778,"date":"2020-08-17T14:54:48","date_gmt":"2020-08-17T18:54:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=29778"},"modified":"2021-10-15T15:16:14","modified_gmt":"2021-10-15T19:16:14","slug":"epic-sues-over-google-play-store-too","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/08\/17\/epic-sues-over-google-play-store-too\/","title":{"rendered":"Epic Sues Over Google Play Store, Too"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2020\/8\/13\/21368363\/epic-google-fortnite-lawsuit-antitrust-app-play-store-apple-removal\">Russell Brandom<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=24152352\">Hacker News<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2020\/08\/13\/google-pulls-fortnight\/\">MacRumors<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2020\/8\/13\/21368363\/epic-google-fortnite-lawsuit-antitrust-app-play-store-apple-removal\"><p>Epic Games has <a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.vox-cdn.com\/uploads\/chorus_asset\/file\/21759099\/file0.243586135368002.pdf\">filed suit<\/a> against Google over alleged antitrust violations, just hours after seeing <em>Fortnite<\/em> dropped from the both <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2020\/8\/13\/21368079\/fortnite-epic-android-banned-google-play-app-store-rule-violation\">the Google Play Store<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2020\/8\/13\/21366438\/apple-fortnite-ios-app-store-violations-epic-payments\">iOS App store<\/a> and filing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2020\/8\/13\/21367963\/epic-fortnite-legal-complaint-apple-ios-app-store-removal-injunctive-relief\">a similar lawsuit against Apple<\/a>. Epic&rsquo;s complaint alleges that Google&rsquo;s payment restrictions on the Play Store constitute a monopoly, and thus a violation of both the Sherman Act and California&rsquo;s Cartwright Act. <\/p><p>Epic&rsquo;s hit game <em>Fortnite<\/em> was removed from the Google Play Store <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2020\/8\/13\/21368079\/fortnite-epic-android-banned-google-play-app-store-rule-violation\">earlier today<\/a>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.vox-cdn.com\/uploads\/chorus_asset\/file\/21759099\/file0.243586135368002.pdf\">Epic<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/cdn.vox-cdn.com\/uploads\/chorus_asset\/file\/21759099\/file0.243586135368002.pdf\"><p>Notwithstanding its promises to make Android devices open to competition, Google has erected contractual and technological barriers that foreclose competing ways of distributing apps to Android users, ensuring that the Google Play Store accounts for nearly all the downloads of apps from app stores on Android devices. Google thus maintains a monopoly over the market for distributing mobile apps to Android users, referred to herein as the &ldquo;Android App Distribution Market&rdquo; (infra Part II).<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Epic&rsquo;s experience with one OEM, OnePlus, is illustrative. Epic struck a deal with OnePlus to make Epic games available on its phones through an Epic Games app. The Epic Games app would have allowed users to seamlessly install and update Epic games, including Fortnite, without obstacles imposed by Google&rsquo;s Android OS. But Google forced OnePlus to renege on the deal, citing Google&rsquo;s &ldquo;particular[] concern&rdquo; about Epic having the ability to install and update mobile games while &ldquo;bypassing the Google Play Store&rdquo;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2020\/8\/13\/21368395\/fortnite-epic-games-oneplus-deal-google-play-store-lawsuit-lg\">Jay Peters<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2020\/8\/13\/21368395\/fortnite-epic-games-oneplus-deal-google-play-store-lawsuit-lg\"><p>Epic also alleges that the original deal between Epic and OnePlus would have made the launcher available worldwide, but Google &ldquo;demanded that OnePlus not implement its agreement with Epic with the limited exception of mobile devices sold in India.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Epic also alleges that Google &ldquo;prevented LG from pre-installing the Epic Games app on LG devices&rdquo; because &mdash; in LG&rsquo;s words, apparently &mdash; LG had a contract &ldquo;to block side downloading off Google Play Store this year.&rdquo;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2020\/4\/21\/21229943\/epic-games-fortnite-google-play-store-available-third-party-software\">Nick Statt<\/a>, in April:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2020\/4\/21\/21229943\/epic-games-fortnite-google-play-store-available-third-party-software\">\n<p>&ldquo;After 18 months of operating Fortnite on Android outside of the Google Play Store, we&rsquo;ve come to a basic realization,&rdquo; reads Epic&rsquo;s statement. &ldquo;Google puts software downloadable outside of Google Play at a disadvantage, through technical and business measures such as scary, repetitive security pop-ups for downloaded and updated software, restrictive manufacturer and carrier agreements and dealings, Google public relations characterizing third party software sources as malware, and new efforts such as Google Play Protect to outright block software obtained outside the Google Play store.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/journeydan\/status\/1294091735124054016\">Daniel Bader<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/journeydan\/status\/1294091735124054016\"><p>All due respect, there&rsquo;s more than a little hyperbole in &ldquo;scary, repetitive security pop-ups.&rdquo; This is the &ldquo;scary&rdquo; process of installing the Epic Games app on Android through Epic&rsquo;s own, fully guided website.<\/p><p>Inconvenient? Maybe. But not scary.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>His screenshots look pretty scary to me. It says, &ldquo;For your security, your phone is not allowed to install unknown apps from this source.&rdquo; Google <a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/07\/23\/annoying-catalina-security-features\/\">and<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/08\/04\/apple-remote-kills-long-time-developers-apps\/\">Apple<\/a> (on macOS) both use exaggerated language in their alerts.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/elkmovie\/status\/1294125566950547456\">Michael Love<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/elkmovie\/status\/1294125566950547456\">\n<p>I am glad they&rsquo;re calling Google out on all the hoops they make you jump through for sideloading; it&rsquo;s better than not having it at all, but it&rsquo;s hard to argue it&rsquo;s all necessary for user security.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/08\/13\/epic-direct-payment\/\">Epic Direct Payment<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/06\/22\/the-app-store-doesnt-make-apps-safe\/\">The App Store Doesn&rsquo;t Make Apps Safe<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"epic-sues-over-google-play-store-too-update-2020-08-28\">Update (2020-08-28): <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rustyshelf\/status\/1299114873167650816\">Russell Ivanovic<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rustyshelf\/status\/1299114873167650816\">\n<p>[Sideloading] doesn&rsquo;t work because Google makes it very hard to do and also doesn&rsquo;t let you do stuff like auto update.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Russell Brandom (Hacker News, MacRumors): Epic Games has filed suit against Google over alleged antitrust violations, just hours after seeing Fortnite dropped from the both the Google Play Store and iOS App store and filing a similar lawsuit against Apple. Epic&rsquo;s complaint alleges that Google&rsquo;s payment restrictions on the Play Store constitute a monopoly, and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2020-08-17T18:54:50Z","apple_news_api_id":"ea2dfe0d-bd87-43dc-9a56-5fc0fb6ce3d3","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2021-10-15T19:16:18Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAw==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/A6i3-Db2HQ9yaVl_A-2zj0w","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[2085,101,1969,1768,51,784,41,209,2132],"class_list":["post-29778","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-antitrust","tag-business","tag-epic","tag-fortnite","tag-google","tag-google-play-store","tag-lawsuit","tag-legal","tag-sideloading"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29778","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=29778"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29778\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":29928,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29778\/revisions\/29928"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=29778"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=29778"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=29778"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}