{"id":29360,"date":"2020-06-25T16:23:03","date_gmt":"2020-06-25T20:23:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=29360"},"modified":"2020-08-04T14:13:14","modified_gmt":"2020-08-04T18:13:14","slug":"the-talk-show-remote-from-wwdc-2020","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/06\/25\/the-talk-show-remote-from-wwdc-2020\/","title":{"rendered":"The Talk Show Remote From WWDC 2020"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/thetalkshow\/2020\/06\/24\/ep-286\">The Talk Show<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/thetalkshow\/2020\/06\/24\/ep-286\"><p>John Gruber is joined by Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak to discuss the news from WWDC 2020: the Mac&rsquo;s transition to Apple silicon, MacOS 11 Big Sur, iOS and iPadOS 14, and more.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.macstories.net\/linked\/the-talk-show-remote-from-wwdc-2020-with-guests-craig-federighi-and-greg-joswiak\/\">John Vorhees<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.macstories.net\/linked\/the-talk-show-remote-from-wwdc-2020-with-guests-craig-federighi-and-greg-joswiak\/\"><p>In response to commentators who believe that Apple is merging iOS and macOS or abandoning the Mac, Federighi rattled off a long list of projects related to the Mac, commenting, &ldquo;We love the Mac and we&rsquo;re all in.&rdquo; Joswiak added, &ldquo;We&rsquo;re far from bored with the Mac; it&rsquo;s in our DNA.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Federighi also addressed the relationship of Catalyst, SwiftUI, AppKit, and UIKit for developers, explaining that there is no single correct path. He said that the best path depends on where developers start. For example, some developers have invested heavily in AppKit and will probably want to stick with it, while UIKit developers may want to bring their apps to the Mac using Catalyst, whereas a new developer may want to start fresh with SwiftUI.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/06\/23\/macos-11-0-big-sur-announced\/\">macOS 11.0 Big Sur Announced<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/06\/23\/ios-14-and-ipados-14\/\">iOS 14 and iPadOS 14 Announced<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/06\/23\/apple-silicon\/\">Apple Silicon<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/06\/22\/wwdc-2020-links\/\">WWDC 2020 Links<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/03\/29\/software-before-the-app-store\/\">Software Before the App Store<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"the-talk-show-remote-from-wwdc-2020-update-2020-07-09\">Update (2020-07-09): <a href=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/2020\/07\/how_we_shot_the_talk_show_remote\">John Gruber<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/daringfireball\/status\/1280246903058214913\">tweet<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/2020\/07\/how_we_shot_the_talk_show_remote\"><p>It doesn&rsquo;t look or sound like a Zoom or FaceTime call that was simply recorded and played back.<\/p>\n<p>A lot of folks noticed that, and have asked how we made it. I have good news and bad news. The good news is the answer is very simple and doesn&rsquo;t require any expensive equipment. The bad news is it&rsquo;s a lot of work.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"the-talk-show-remote-from-wwdc-2020-update-2020-07-27\">Update (2020-07-27): <a href=\"https:\/\/take.surf\/2020\/06\/28\/on-tools-and-developers\">Jesper<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/take.surf\/2020\/06\/28\/on-tools-and-developers\"><p>Apple is judged by their actions, by their behavior and by their history, and in the absence of roadmaps and rationalizations, and in the recurring presence of re-contextualizations as new changes happen, the guessing game is the result. Every change turns into a proposed Chekov&rsquo;s gun.<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>If you meet a person and they act a certain way, over time you learn to recognize that pattern in them. If you develop for Apple platforms and every year is a series of new inconveniences to manage just as much as it is new technology to consider adopting, you learn to assume a negative progression in convenience, utility and freedom, just as much as you have hopes for the advances in frameworks and hardware.<\/p><p>The &ldquo;tools&rdquo; Craig&rsquo;s talking about have all seen the beginning of, effectively, the closing of the Mac as a platform. We know that Apple doesn&rsquo;t like to dwell on the bets they make, and we know that Apple doesn&rsquo;t usually back out of things. We&rsquo;re waiting anxiously for the moment where the hammer drops. [&#8230;] This bed is of Apple's own making.<\/p><\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Talk Show: John Gruber is joined by Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak to discuss the news from WWDC 2020: the Mac&rsquo;s transition to Apple silicon, MacOS 11 Big Sur, iOS and iPadOS 14, and more. 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