{"id":29358,"date":"2020-06-25T16:22:59","date_gmt":"2020-06-25T20:22:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=29358"},"modified":"2020-06-25T16:22:59","modified_gmt":"2020-06-25T20:22:59","slug":"hey-approved-with-trial","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/06\/25\/hey-approved-with-trial\/","title":{"rendered":"HEY Approved With Trial"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marcoarment\/status\/1274786069477818368\">Marco Arment<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marcoarment\/status\/1274786069477818368\"><p>I bet they come to a compromise where neither side has to lose face and &ldquo;back down&rdquo;, such as Hey adding some free functionality such that the app can do something without a purchase but also without adding IAP. (Apple&rsquo;s letter effectively invited them to do this.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hey.com\/apple\/path\/\">Jason Fried<\/a> (also: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dhh\/status\/1275066259801923584\">David Heinemeier Hansson<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=23600275\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/hey.com\/apple\/path\/\"><p>Phil Schiller, Apple&rsquo;s Senior Vice President of Worldwide Marketing, <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2020\/06\/18\/interview-apples-schiller-says-position-on-hey-app-is-unchanged-and-no-rules-changes-are-imminent\/\">told us the kind of changes he&rsquo;d love to see us make<\/a>. His primary objection was &ldquo;You download the app and it doesn&rsquo;t work, that&rsquo;s not what we want on the store.&rdquo;<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>This new version introduces a new free option for the iOS app. Now users can sign up directly in-app for a free, temporary, randomized @hey.com email address that works for 14 days. Think of it like a temporary SIM card you buy when traveling. Or for when you don&rsquo;t want to give out your real email address, like a short term &ldquo;for sale&rdquo; listing, like Craigslist does it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/roryprior\/status\/1275072537647443968\">Rory Prior<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/roryprior\/status\/1275072537647443968\">\n<p>This is not really a great look for either Apple or Hey. If the solution was just &lsquo;add a demo&rsquo; (in all but name) then it&rsquo;s more contorting of the rules to save face. Very much doubt this will become a blanket exception for other developers.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>It&rsquo;s especially weird because the guidelines have always forbidden demos. So why would adding a demo give the app an out for the obligation to use IAP? If you accept <a href=\"https:\/\/www.protocol.com\/apple-hey-rejection-letter\">Apple&rsquo;s reading of the guidelines<\/a> for reader apps and business vs. consumer, the proposed changes address none of the violations. Absent the controversy, it seems <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marcoarment\/status\/1275062771021869056\">unlikely<\/a> that this would lead to approval. But what Basecamp has done is clever, because (I guess) you can keep signing up for temporary addresses. Instead of being a time-limited demo for a regular e-mail provider, the spin is that it&rsquo;s a fully-featured client for a temporary e-mail service.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dhh\/status\/1276157586434383874\">David Heinemeier Hansson<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dhh\/status\/1276157586434383874\"><p>Apple has definitively approved HEY in the App Store!! No IAP, no 30% cut, but we&rsquo;ve opened the door to a free temp address service, and use same app for work accounts.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Good for them, but it&rsquo;s now even less clear what the guidelines mean. I expect that other apps that try to just &ldquo;add a demo&rdquo; or unrelated functionality will be rejected, although perhaps FastMail could create a similar randomized e-mail service.<\/p>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/06\/19\/it-doesnt-work\/\">It Doesn&rsquo;t Work<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/06\/16\/hey-rejected-from-the-app-store\/\">HEY Rejected From the App Store<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/06\/19\/have-you-contributed-any-revenue\/\">Have You Contributed Any Revenue?<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Marco Arment: I bet they come to a compromise where neither side has to lose face and &ldquo;back down&rdquo;, such as Hey adding some free functionality such that the app can do something without a purchase but also without adding IAP. (Apple&rsquo;s letter effectively invited them to do this.) Jason Fried (also: David Heinemeier Hansson, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2020-06-25T20:23:02Z","apple_news_api_id":"8cedc129-61e3-4788-bf85-ca09c1d7b397","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2020-06-25T20:23:02Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAD\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/w==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/AjO3BKWHjR4i_hcoJwdezlw","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[91,333,596,1954,522,31,1667,26],"class_list":["post-29358","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-appstore","tag-basecamp","tag-fastmail","tag-hey","tag-inapppurchase","tag-ios","tag-ios-13","tag-iosapp"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29358","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=29358"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29358\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":29359,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29358\/revisions\/29359"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=29358"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=29358"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=29358"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}