{"id":28679,"date":"2020-04-17T15:23:52","date_gmt":"2020-04-17T19:23:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=28679"},"modified":"2023-06-19T10:10:20","modified_gmt":"2023-06-19T14:10:20","slug":"chrome-vs-safari-energy-use-and-compatibility","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/04\/17\/chrome-vs-safari-energy-use-and-compatibility\/","title":{"rendered":"Chrome vs. Safari: Energy Use and Compatibility"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/waltmossberg\/status\/1244350804561141766\">Walt Mossberg<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/waltmossberg\/status\/1244350804561141766\">\n<p>If you use a Mac, and you insist on using Chrome, stop complaining about speed, fan noise, or battery life. It&rsquo;s well known that Chrome is a resource and battery hog, especially on Macs. Safari is fully capable, quite fast and very privacy &amp; security focused. Just use Safari.<\/p>\n<p>If you&rsquo;re a Firefox fan, that&rsquo;s good too. My point is just that Chrome, which years ago worked great on Macs, is now a big problem, and that Chrome users with degraded Mac performance or weaker battery life should look to their browser choice, and not blame the hardware.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Safari is <em>generally<\/em> capable, but I&rsquo;ve been increasingly running into compatibility problems. I think it&rsquo;s fair to say that if your top priority is a Mac browser that works with the most sites, you should pick Chrome, followed by Firefox. I have other priorities, so I&rsquo;m still using Safari. But lately it feels like a compromise to get a good Mac app and privacy. It used to feel like I was simply getting the best browser.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2020\/04\/01\/mossberg-chrome\">John Gruber<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2020\/04\/01\/mossberg-chrome\">\n<p>It&rsquo;s also funny how angry some Chrome fans are about this, particularly web developers. They argue that the problem is that Safari is slow to adopt Chrome-first web technologies without acknowledging that the reason Safari has better performance and stronger privacy goes hand-in-hand with the fact that these technologies Safari hasn&rsquo;t adopted are resource-heavy and potentially privacy-invasive.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>I don&rsquo;t think it&rsquo;s that simple. First, performance and privacy aside, Apple has a strategic interest in some of these technologies not taking off. Or, more charitably, it makes sense that they wouldn&rsquo;t be high priorities to implement.<\/p>\n<p>Second, the compatibility issues I&rsquo;m seeing are not, as far as I can tell, because of new technologies that Safari doesn&rsquo;t support yet. Rather, the engines are diverging such that even older technologies don&rsquo;t behave consistently. Unfortunately, some sites don&rsquo;t adequately test with Safari.<\/p>\n<p>Third, I thought the idea was that Safari&rsquo;s efficiency comes not just from absent features but also from more efficient implementations of the common features. But even that is not clear-cut. Recently, as we physically isolate, we&rsquo;ve been doing board game nights online at <a href=\"https:\/\/boardgamearena.com\">Board Game Arena<\/a>. It&rsquo;s amazing how many games this site supports and how well they work in a browser. But what really surprised me was how much better it performs in Chrome. The 7 Wonders game was almost unusable on my iMac in Safari, with multi-second pauses and animations that lost so many frames I couldn&rsquo;t see what was happening. The fans were always running at full blast. Meanwhile, on my wife&rsquo;s 2018 MacBook Air, which I normally find a bit pokey, the animations were smooth and the fans were silent. The difference is that she uses Chrome. Once I fired up Chrome on the iMac, the site worked great there, too.<\/p>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/03\/26\/safari-13-1-third-party-cookie-blocking-and-7-day-script-writeable-storage\/\">Safari 13.1: Third-Party Cookie Blocking and 7-Day Script-Writeable Storage<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/01\/20\/farewell-carcassonne\/\">Farewell, Carcassonne<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/12\/11\/the-success-of-intelligent-tracking-prevention\/\">The Success of Intelligent Tracking Prevention<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/11\/18\/the-hotel-cupertino-clause\/\">The Hotel Cupertino Clause<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/10\/21\/safari-security-code-autofill\/\">Safari Security Code AutoFill<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/03\/11\/skype-for-web-drops-support-for-safari\/\">Skype for Web Drops Support for Safari<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"chrome-vs-safari-energy-use-and-compatibility-update-2020-04-20\">Update (2020-04-20): <a href=\"https:\/\/cahuk.net\/2019\/08\/09\/youtube-in-4k\/\">Simon Cahuk<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/cahuk.net\/2019\/08\/09\/youtube-in-4k\/\">\n<p>You still can&rsquo;t watch 4K Youtube videos in Safari. So I opened a 4K Youtube video in Google Chrome to watch it in 4K.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Walt Mossberg: If you use a Mac, and you insist on using Chrome, stop complaining about speed, fan noise, or battery life. It&rsquo;s well known that Chrome is a resource and battery hog, especially on Macs. Safari is fully capable, quite fast and very privacy &amp; security focused. Just use Safari. 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