{"id":28009,"date":"2020-02-03T15:51:30","date_gmt":"2020-02-03T20:51:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=28009"},"modified":"2020-02-26T15:07:44","modified_gmt":"2020-02-26T20:07:44","slug":"macos-display-problems","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2020\/02\/03\/macos-display-problems\/","title":{"rendered":"macOS Display Problems"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/blog\/2020\/20200107_1436-2019MacPro-LG5K-maximum-brightness-after-reboot.html\">Lloyd Chambers<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/blog\/2020\/20200107_1436-2019MacPro-LG5K-maximum-brightness-after-reboot.html\"><p>After every reboot, the LG 5K display goes to maximum brightness.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2020\/01\/22\/catalina-lg-5k-brightness\">John Gruber<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2020\/01\/22\/catalina-lg-5k-brightness\">\n<p>Is this the worst bug in the world? Not even close. It&rsquo;s a paper-cut bug. No data loss, no crash, not something sort of thing where something doesn&rsquo;t even work&#x2009;&mdash;&#x2009;just an annoyance. But no one wants to use a tool that gives you half dozen paper cuts every day. And MacOS 10.15 is chockablock with paper-cut bugs.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>I don&rsquo;t have an LG 5K, but I&rsquo;ve been having problems with multiple external displays ever since getting a USB-C Mac. Sometimes the Mac sees the external display, and puts windows on it, but the display itself shows only black (yet isn&rsquo;t asleep). Rebooting the Mac doesn&rsquo;t help. Shutting down the Mac and unplugging\/replugging the display doesn&rsquo;t help. Rebooting the Mac without the display and then shutting down and plugging it in doesn&rsquo;t help. The only thing that seems to help is swapping the display to another USB-C port&mdash;thankfully, I have more than one. Then, a while later, the problem repeats and I have to switch back to the first USB-C port.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chockenberry\/status\/1220198990857162753\">Craig Hockenberry<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chockenberry\/status\/1220198990857162753\">\n<p>My 16&rdquo; MBP is waking itself up hundreds of times overnight, probably with the display on. Catalina is draining about 1\/4 of the battery because of it.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mxswd\/status\/1220132932745973761\">Maxwell Swadling<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mxswd\/status\/1220132932745973761\">\n<p>The strangest bug with Apple&rsquo;s USB-C stack is power saving will happily put the display to sleep, which disables USB hub power, causing force ejection of any external drives you have, potentially corrupting them.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/sgaw\/status\/1220145229694742535\">Simon Wolf<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/sgaw\/status\/1220145229694742535\">\n<p>Any chance this is why external monitors cause a watchdog panic and reboot when my iMac sleeps under Catalina? I&rsquo;ve heard that external drives can cause it too.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/gruber\/status\/1220189071349288962\">John Gruber<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/gruber\/status\/1220189071349288962\">\n<p>I didn&rsquo;t even mention it in my post, but I&rsquo;d say about 1 in 10 times I open my 16-inch MBP, the built-in display contrast is waaaaay off. Way too much contrast. I can fix it either by moving brightness all the way down then back up again, or by closing and reopening the lid.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/steipete\/status\/1220325691859906560\">Peter Steinberger<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/steipete\/status\/1220325691859906560\">\n<p>The LG 5K is C U R S E D<\/p>\n<p>We bought 10 for the company and it was the single dumbest hardware purchase decision I ever made.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/eclecticlight.co\/2020\/01\/25\/preventing-external-displays-from-sleep-can-be-crucial\/\">Howard Oakley<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/eclecticlight.co\/2020\/01\/25\/preventing-external-displays-from-sleep-can-be-crucial\/\">\n<p>An external display can be a good way of adding more USB-C ports to a Mac, but a strange bug can cause a lot of trouble with this otherwise excellent solution.<\/p>\n<p>As I <a href=\"https:\/\/eclecticlight.co\/2019\/11\/02\/are-you-experiencing-panics-or-problems-with-usb-c-external-displays\/\">wrote back in November<\/a> last year, letting an external display sleep can precipitate a kernel panic or other problem when the display goes to sleep, or the Mac tries to wake it up.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/blog\/2020\/20200131_1812-AppleCoreRot-macOSCatalina-update-displays-screwed.html\">Lloyd Chambers<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/blog\/2020\/20200131_1812-AppleCoreRot-macOSCatalina-update-displays-screwed.html\"><p>But it is much worse than I realized: <strong>when I reboot<\/strong> after some time, Crapalina 10.15.3:<\/p><ul><li>Reverses the <strong>Arrangement<\/strong> of the displays left vs right.<\/li><li>Moves the menu bar to the <strong>wrong display<\/strong>.<\/li><li>Makes 2560 X 1600 resolution unavailable on my <a href=\"https:\/\/macperformanceguide.com\/related.html?dglyKW=NEC+PA302W\">NEC PA302W<\/a>&mdash;I have to reboot a 2nd time, which somehow retains the menu bar and Arrangement and I can then use 2560 X 1600.<\/li><\/ul><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/06\/26\/the-great-monitor-search-continues\/\">The Great Monitor Search Continues<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"macos-display-problems-update-2020-02-18\">Update (2020-02-18): <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/command_tab\/status\/1229839747020800000\">Collin Allen<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/command_tab\/status\/1229839747020800000\">\n<p>Catalina bug: Coming out of sleep or screensaver, my whole display (except for the mouse cursor!) is washed out. Closing and re-opening the lid fixes it. A reboot makes it go away for a few days. &#x1F937;&#x200D;&#x2642;&#xFE0F;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"macos-display-problems-update-2020-02-26\">Update (2020-02-26): <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/gruber\/status\/1230254533789540353\">John Gruber<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/gruber\/status\/1230254533789540353\">\n<p>For me (16&rdquo; MBP), more commonly, the problem is over-saturation, not under-saturation. But I&rsquo;ve seen both, and in both cases you can &ldquo;fix&rdquo; it by either closing\/reopening lid, or by sliding the brightness slider all the way down and then back up.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Lloyd Chambers: After every reboot, the LG 5K display goes to maximum brightness. John Gruber: Is this the worst bug in the world? Not even close. It&rsquo;s a paper-cut bug. No data loss, no crash, not something sort of thing where something doesn&rsquo;t even work&#x2009;&mdash;&#x2009;just an annoyance. 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