{"id":27142,"date":"2019-11-01T15:11:04","date_gmt":"2019-11-01T19:11:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=27142"},"modified":"2019-11-05T16:29:04","modified_gmt":"2019-11-05T21:29:04","slug":"tylenol-moment-for-apples-laptop-keyboards","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/11\/01\/tylenol-moment-for-apples-laptop-keyboards\/","title":{"rendered":"Tylenol Moment for Apple&rsquo;s Laptop Keyboards"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/kvz.io\/tobuntu.html\">Kev van Zonneveld<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=21395734\">Hacker News<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/kvz.io\/tobuntu.html\">\n<p>Both in terms of productivity and delight I had my best years on Apple and I didn&rsquo;t think I&rsquo;d ever look back. But here we are.<\/p>\n<p>Why? I (guess I&rsquo;m the only person alive that) didn&rsquo;t mind the TouchBar or lack of a real escape key (can map Caps Lock to that). And I liked having 4 USB-C+ ports that I could do anything with. But yes, The Keyboard.<\/p>\n<p>I spent the most money I ever did on this MacBook Pro, and it&rsquo;s also the worst machine I ever had because the keyboard breaks down (like, it won&rsquo;t register the <code>s<\/code>).<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>So far I&rsquo;ve brought it in for repairs three times, and <strong>each time I&rsquo;m without my workhorse for a week<\/strong>. Those are unplanned holidays that are dragging my productivity&#x2013;and basically my company down.<\/p>\n<p>I personally also feel <strong>macOS has taken a freefall<\/strong> regarding robustness and polish, but that might be just me. It&rsquo;s the keyboard that ultimately made me feel just really concerned about having my productivity\/company\/future so tightly coupled to what Apple ships next.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2019\/10\/31\/16-inch-macbook-pro-volume-shipments-4q19\/\">Joe Rossignol<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2019\/10\/31\/16-inch-macbook-pro-volume-shipments-4q19\/\"><p>While it is unclear if the widely rumored 16-inch MacBook Pro will launch in 2019 or 2020, the latest report from <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.digitimes.com\/news\/a20191031PD204.html\">DigiTimes<\/a><\/em> claims that Apple will begin receiving volume shipments of the notebook in the fourth quarter of this year.<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo originally said the 16-inch MacBook Pro would <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2019\/02\/17\/16-inch-macbook-pro-2019-kuo\/\">launch in the fourth quarter of 2019<\/a> with an all-new design, including a scissor switch keyboard. As of late, however, Kuo has more vaguely stated that a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.macrumors.com\/2019\/10\/29\/kuo-new-macbook-scissor-keyboard-mid-2020\/\">&ldquo;new MacBook model&rdquo; with a scissor keyboard<\/a> will launch in mid 2020. It&rsquo;s unclear if the &ldquo;new MacBook model&rdquo; that Kuo has referred to more recently is the 16-inch MacBook Pro.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Mid-2020 would be more than five years after the initial 12-inch MacBook shipped with the bad keyboard, and it may take longer to turn over all the laptop product lines.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dhh\/status\/1189937197094277121\">David Heinemeier Hansson<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dhh\/status\/1189937197094277121\"><p>My great hope for the keyboard debacle is that Apple pulls a Johnson &amp; Johnson 1982 move and recalls every single laptop they&rsquo;ve sold since 2015, and gives buyers a new scissor-keyboard equipped model instead. How many billions might that cost? A quarters&rsquo; worth of buybacks?<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>I know it&rsquo;s institutionally almost impossible for Apple to accept that they not only fucked up the MacBook&rsquo;s keyboard, but that they failed to fix their fuckup for 4 years running, with several attempts. They&rsquo;re proud people, Apple. But I&rsquo;d be prouder still of them if they did.<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>Apple&rsquo;s consumer confidence amongst people who&rsquo;ve been stricken by the keyboard debacle is hurting. Maybe it&rsquo;s not showing up in their net-promoter scores yet, but it&rsquo;s there. Oh it&rsquo;s there. I-FUCKING-BOUGHT-A-WINDOWS-LAPTOP it&rsquo;s there.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/alec_joy39\/status\/1189941241175269376\">Alec Joy<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/alec_joy39\/status\/1189941241175269376\">\n<p>I bought the first butterfly switch MacBook Pro when it came out in 2016. After three years, and 4 keyboard repairs (thankfully all free) I bought a Thinkpad last month and sold my MacBook and ipad.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/patio11\/status\/1189944836209512448\">Patrick McKenzie<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/patio11\/status\/1189944836209512448\">\n<p>I felt like I was really missing something for years after I started using Macs in 2014. My next personal computer is unlikely to be a Mac, solely because I want a built-in keyboard that works. Happy to eat N months of retraining muscle memory to get it.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/belmikey\/status\/1189945556166225921\">Mikey<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/belmikey\/status\/1189945556166225921\">\n<p>Yup. I was an Apple Fanboi until the current generation of MBPs (2015+). Then they demonstrated just how utterly tone-deaf they are to the things that matter to actual professionals.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/colincornaby\/status\/1189993841262133248\">Colin Cornaby<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/colincornaby\/status\/1189993841262133248\">\n<p>Both my home and work Touch Bar MacBook Pro creak very loudly as they heat and cool. I have heard Apple is fixing this with top case replacements.<\/p>\n<p>I use two MacBook Pros and both have serious hardware issues in addition to the keyboard.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dnanian\/status\/1189994012150812672\">Dave Nanian<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dnanian\/status\/1189994012150812672\">\n<p>Even thought I&rsquo;m a macOS developer, when I&rsquo;m on vacation and don&rsquo;t need to do development, I travel with a Windows laptop, because my Mac laptops are kind of awful.<\/p>\n<p>Awful to the point where I&rsquo;ve considered installing macOS in a VM on said laptop.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/10\/04\/keyboards-as-competitive-advantage\/\">Keyboards as Competitive Advantage<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/04\/01\/alternatives-to-mac-laptops\/\">Alternatives to Mac Laptops<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p id=\"tylenol-moment-for-apples-laptop-keyboards-update-2019-11-02\">Update (2019-11-02): <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dhh\/status\/1190300788234412033\">David Heinemeier Hansson<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dhh\/status\/1190300788234412033\">\n<p>The favorite go-to explanation for why Apple screwed up their laptop keyboards seems to be: They went too thin!! This fails to account for the fact that the Surface Laptop is thinner than a MacBook Air and has a great keyboard. ThinkPad X1 is super thin, great keyboard.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/addisonwebb\/status\/1190370600927281152\">Addison Webb<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/addisonwebb\/status\/1190370600927281152\">\n<p>If I didn&rsquo;t use Xcode for a living, I would be heavily considering a non-Apple laptop to replace my 2016 MacBook Pro.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/thinkofdave\/status\/1190395755825115137\">Dave Hidding<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/thinkofdave\/status\/1190395755825115137\">\n<p>Truth. With all due respect &amp; as a <em>really<\/em> long-time Mac owner (going back to a FatMac) \n@tim_cook, this is worth the five minute read. Surprise us with a J&amp;J response...<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/levelsio\/status\/1190188932979253251\">levelsio<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/levelsio\/status\/1190188932979253251\">\n<p>Current MacBook Pro status:<\/p>\n<p>- external keyboard on top because internal keyboard broken<br \/>\n- frozen shrimp as ice pack to stop overheating while browsing the web<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p id=\"tylenol-moment-for-apples-laptop-keyboards-update-2019-11-05\">Update (2019-11-05): <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/gpcroft\/status\/1190890001447489536\">Giles P. Croft<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/gpcroft\/status\/1190890001447489536\">\n<p>Yes. Must confess, this was one of the factors that led me to sell my MacBook Pro: typos in every other sentence on that damned keyboard &#x1F644; <\/p>\n<p>It&rsquo;s crazy that one company can concurrently make both the best\/most satisfying keyboard I&rsquo;ve ever used (Magic Keyboard) and the worst (every Mac laptop currently on sale).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kev van Zonneveld (Hacker News): Both in terms of productivity and delight I had my best years on Apple and I didn&rsquo;t think I&rsquo;d ever look back. But here we are. Why? 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