{"id":27088,"date":"2019-10-29T16:20:17","date_gmt":"2019-10-29T20:20:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=27088"},"modified":"2019-10-29T16:20:17","modified_gmt":"2019-10-29T20:20:17","slug":"no-etas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/10\/29\/no-etas\/","title":{"rendered":"No ETAs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/inessential.com\/2019\/10\/28\/no_etas\">Brent Simmons<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/brentsimmons\/status\/1188917482704310273\">tweet<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/inessential.com\/2019\/10\/28\/no_etas\">\n<p>You don&rsquo;t know what you forgot to take into account, or what pieces you underestimated or overestimated. You never know what weird bugs will trip you up.<\/p>\n<p>You don&rsquo;t know what OS release between now and then will make you spend extra time on something.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>The problem with stating an ETA then, is that it sets up expectations. When you don&rsquo;t meet them &mdash; and you won&rsquo;t, most of the time &mdash; people sometimes get upset.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p> The only reason anything ever ships is because people just keep working until it&rsquo;s ready.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/siegel\/status\/1188921904217939974\">Rich Siegel<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/siegel\/status\/1188921904217939974\">\n<p>I support and endorse this position. It&rsquo;s how we&rsquo;ve done it for close to thirty years.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JoshHrach\/status\/1188921020847050752\">Josh Hrach<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JoshHrach\/status\/1188921020847050752\">\n<p>Great post. If someone asks me for a feature, I tell them the version it&rsquo;ll be in, not when that version will be out. That&rsquo;s easier for us to control.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Even this can be difficult because sometimes there&rsquo;s an unexpected blocker that makes it impossible to implement a feature that seemed doable.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/peternlewis\/status\/1188972715790614528\">Peter N Lewis<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/peternlewis\/status\/1188972715790614528\"><p>Absolutely agree.  The most I will ever say is &ldquo;it is done for the next version&rdquo; (ie, I have actually implemented, it is actually running on my Mac, and so it will be part of the next release).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/mbrennek.2nw.net\/2013\/05\/promising-features.html\">Matt Brenneke<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"http:\/\/mbrennek.2nw.net\/2013\/05\/promising-features.html\"><p>Old man Matt has had too many features postponed or killed by schedules, or management, or politics, or bugs to promise anything to anyone.<\/p><\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Brent Simmons (tweet): You don&rsquo;t know what you forgot to take into account, or what pieces you underestimated or overestimated. You never know what weird bugs will trip you up. You don&rsquo;t know what OS release between now and then will make you spend extra time on something. 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