{"id":26786,"date":"2019-10-04T17:01:57","date_gmt":"2019-10-04T21:01:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=26786"},"modified":"2019-10-05T10:20:59","modified_gmt":"2019-10-05T14:20:59","slug":"weather-line-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/10\/04\/weather-line-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Weather Line 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1179809920549638144\">Ryan Jones<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/9to5mac.com\/2019\/10\/03\/weather-line-2-super-forecast\/\">9to5Mac<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1179809920549638144\"><p>+ All-new design<br \/>\n+ All-new weather data solution<br \/>\n+ 21 new features<br \/>\n+ 17 themes (4 dark modes)<br \/>\n+ Super Forecast<br \/>\n+ Travel Assist<br \/>\n+ 10-day forecasts<br \/>\n+ HD radar<br \/>\n+ Hyperlocal rain<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Initially we had Dark Sky, The Weather Channel, and WDT, a meterorlogist PhD we consulted said those were the best.<\/p>\n<p>We directed users how to pick&#8230; but wait&#8230; why pick one, just give me THE BEST OF THEM ALL!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Sounds really good. I haven&rsquo;t tried it yet, because it requires <a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/09\/25\/ios-13-and-13-1\/\">iOS 13<\/a>, and I plan to stay away from that for a while longer. Weather Line 1 was one of my favorite iOS apps, but I can no longer use it either its weather data was <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1179812645844799491\">turned<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1179825071239684096\">off<\/a>. So, for now, I&rsquo;m using Apple Weather. I&rsquo;ll miss the old Weather Line icon, and I&rsquo;m slightly worried about the two-level design and <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mattstocum\/status\/1180113145303449600\">lower information density<\/a>, but I&rsquo;m reserving judgement until I&rsquo;ve used it for a while.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/weatherlineapp.com\/blog\/weather-line-2\">Off Coast LLC<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/weatherlineapp.com\/blog\/weather-line-2\">\n<p>There is a Free plan for those who wish to continue using our core features with limited ads, plus some of the new 2.0 features.<\/p>\n<p>Our Pro plan is called &ldquo;Supercharge&rdquo; and includes a 7-day free trial, all the new features, and no Ads. It will be $1.99 per month, $0.83 per month ($9.99 billed annually), or $44.99 for a lifetime unlock.<\/p>\n<p>Anyone who ever bought Weather Line 1 will get their first year of Supercharge at 50% off - just $4.99 (less than 50 cents per month).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1179813312411918338\">Ryan Jones<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1179813312411918338\"><p>If you HATE subscriptions, there is an expensive Lifetime Unlock that goes for the lifetime of Weather Line.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Some people are <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/fenton_herbert\/status\/1180088593710120960\">upset<\/a> because features that were formerly included in the purchase price are now accompanied by ads if you <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1179822890528755712\">haven&rsquo;t<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/natisho\/status\/1179828224592924672\">subscribed<\/a>. I guess this is a <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/fenton_herbert\/status\/1180127455455121409\">gray area<\/a> of the App Store guidelines.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marcoarment\/status\/1180094640852291584\">Marco Arment<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marcoarment\/status\/1180094640852291584\">\n<p>Do the math. If you bought it for $4.99, they got 70% of that: $3.49. If you use it for 4 years, that&rsquo;s 87 cents a year in revenue.<\/p>\n<p>The Dark Sky API costs $0.0001 per call. If data refreshes once an hour, it&rsquo;s about 88 cents per year, per weather location.<\/p>\n<p>See the problem?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1180104911352160256\">Ryan Jones<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1180104911352160256\">\n<p>Times 3 for The Weather Channel and radar<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robotspacer\/status\/1180168989026275331\">Mike Piontek<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robotspacer\/status\/1180168989026275331\">\n<p>For me it went something like:<\/p>\n<p>&#8226; A few years of &ldquo;eventually Apple will support upgrades&rdquo;<br \/>\n&#8226; OK, subscriptions are clearly the only option<br \/>\n&#8226; Wow people are mad about subscriptions<br \/>\n&#8226; Wow it takes a long time to try to create something people won&rsquo;t be mad about paying a sub for<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1180226397320699910\">Ryan Jones<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1180226397320699910\">\n<p>Bingo. Exactly why we worked for 2 years with no income, while the app lost money for 4 years.<\/p>\n<p>To make WL2 worthy of a $10\/yr subscription.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Previously:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/09\/30\/decreasing-ios-information-density\/\">Decreasing iOS Information Density<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/09\/19\/scanbot-goes-freemium\/\">Scanbot Goes Freemium<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2019\/06\/17\/twitterrific-6-for-ios\/\">Twitterrific 6 for iOS<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2017\/07\/20\/productivity-apps-and-subscription-pricing\/\">Productivity Apps and Subscription Pricing<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2013\/10\/29\/weather-line-1-0\/\">Weather Line 1.0<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p>Update (2019-10-04): <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hisaac\/status\/1180238203573428225\">Isaac Halvorson<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hisaac\/status\/1180238203573428225\">\n<p>FYI, the old Weather Line icon is one of the options in Weather Line 2!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>At the top, I linked to two tweets, since deleted, saying that Weather Line 1 &ldquo;would be shutting down today no matter what&rdquo; and that &ldquo;shutting down&rdquo; <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mjtsai\/status\/1179823993962012673\">meant<\/a> &ldquo;turning off the data.&rdquo; This has <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1180242117462876162\">now<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1180239055184904192\">been<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mjtsai\/status\/1180249176480849920\">clarified<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rjonesy\/status\/1180239055184904192\"><p>We are not shutting off WL1 data! We <em>would<\/em> have to if we did not do this (WL2)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>I updated a spare iPhone to iOS 13 and installed Weather Line 2. What was not clear from the blog post is that the Free plan is a regression from Weather Line 1. Even with the ads, it includes different (less accurate) weather data, and it does not include the Dark Sky precipitation information. (As of this writing, Weather Line 2 predicts tonight&rsquo;s low to be 10 degrees warmer than either Weather Line 1 or Apple Weather, and the current temperature is already below its predicted low.)<\/p>\n\n<p>At least on the iPhone SE, I&rsquo;m not a fan of the new card-based design, as I can no longer see all the important information without scrolling.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ryan Jones (9to5Mac): + All-new design + All-new weather data solution + 21 new features + 17 themes (4 dark modes) + Super Forecast + Travel Assist + 10-day forecasts + HD radar + Hyperlocal rain [&#8230;] Initially we had Dark Sky, The Weather Channel, and WDT, a meterorlogist PhD we consulted said those were [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"apple_news_api_created_at":"2019-10-04T21:02:00Z","apple_news_api_id":"289f7ea6-2f9f-4b58-a75e-8f3af30c9fe3","apple_news_api_modified_at":"2019-10-05T14:21:04Z","apple_news_api_revision":"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABg==","apple_news_api_share_url":"https:\/\/apple.news\/AKJ9-pi-fS1inXo868wyf4w","apple_news_coverimage":0,"apple_news_coverimage_caption":"","apple_news_is_hidden":false,"apple_news_is_paid":false,"apple_news_is_preview":false,"apple_news_is_sponsored":false,"apple_news_maturity_rating":"","apple_news_metadata":"\"\"","apple_news_pullquote":"","apple_news_pullquote_position":"","apple_news_slug":"","apple_news_sections":"\"\"","apple_news_suppress_video_url":false,"apple_news_use_image_component":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[354,1421,101,545,31,1667,26,196,668],"class_list":["post-26786","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-advertising","tag-app-subscriptions","tag-business","tag-icons","tag-ios","tag-ios-13","tag-iosapp","tag-weather","tag-weather-line"],"apple_news_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26786","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=26786"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26786\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":26799,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26786\/revisions\/26799"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=26786"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=26786"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=26786"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}