{"id":20469,"date":"2018-02-09T14:56:24","date_gmt":"2018-02-09T19:56:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=20469"},"modified":"2018-08-16T14:12:49","modified_gmt":"2018-08-16T18:12:49","slug":"that-30-app-store-tax","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2018\/02\/09\/that-30-app-store-tax\/","title":{"rendered":"That 30% App Store Tax"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/micro.inessential.com\/2018\/02\/05\/apples-tax-on.html\">Brent Simmons<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/micro.inessential.com\/2018\/02\/05\/apples-tax-on.html\"><p>Apple&rsquo;s 30% tax on the App Store is increasingly absurd. Richest company in history, and it&rsquo;s still taking 30% from your friendly neighborhood indie developers.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/timeuser\/status\/960923018510946310\">Jamie Halmick<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/timeuser\/status\/960923018510946310\"><p>It&rsquo;s an absurdly large cut for the level of support they give devs given the amount of profit they make on it. Obviously as a biz they can demand it and we will pay it. That doesn&rsquo;t mean we should shut up and like it. They should either do better or take less or both.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/inessential.com\/2018\/02\/06\/on_missing_the_point\">Brent Simmons<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/brentsimmons\/status\/960984763904311296\">tweet<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"http:\/\/inessential.com\/2018\/02\/06\/on_missing_the_point\">\n<p>There&rsquo;s no sacred verse that says businesses acting lawfully can&rsquo;t be criticized. Nothing says we can&rsquo;t advocate for change. In fact, I&rsquo;d say that that&rsquo;s part of capitalism, too.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>My thinking is that a lower cut provides more incentive for developers to invest in high-quality, long-lived apps &mdash; and that that&rsquo;s good for the platform and good for users, and good for Apple, and so everybody wins.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>As hardware progress inevitably slows, software quality and app ecosystems will be increasingly important platform differentiators. The App Store has so many major problems, and I don&rsquo;t think the 30% is at the top of the list, but on the other hand it&rsquo;s a really easy knob to turn, with seemingly low downside and possible great upside.<\/p>\n\n<p>Previously: <a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2011\/03\/02\/dirty-percent\/\">Dirty Percent<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2014\/10\/12\/bbedit-leaving-mac-app-store\/\">BBEdit Leaving the Mac App Store<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2016\/06\/09\/pre-wwdc-app-store-changes\/\">Pre-WWDC App Store Changes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2016\/11\/17\/apple-to-halve-app-store-fees-for-subscription-video-apps\/\">Apple to Halve App Store Fees for Subscription Video Apps<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2017\/05\/18\/apple-wants-30-of-tips-from-chinese-chat-apps\/\">Apple Wants 30% of Tips From Chinese Chat Apps<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n<p>Update (2018-03-02): <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marcoarment\/status\/968905679170883584\">Marco Arment<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marcoarment\/status\/968905679170883584\">\n<p>2. Apple doesn&rsquo;t get a cut of revenue from third-party ads or privacy-invasion payola networks.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>So, in a way, Apple is incentivizing indirect and less privacy friendly methods of app payment such as ads.<\/p>\n\n<p>Update (2018-08-16): <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/agilethumbs\/status\/1029804861477412865\">scott<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/agilethumbs\/status\/1029804861477412865\">\n<p>App Store fees got you down? Meanwhile at Epic, they lowered their take on the Unreal Marketplace from 30% to 12% and retroactively paid back years of fees.<\/p>\n<p>Epic said this is due to the success of Fortnite. If only Apple and Google had successful products to rely on for income.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Brent Simmons: Apple&rsquo;s 30% tax on the App Store is increasingly absurd. Richest company in history, and it&rsquo;s still taking 30% from your friendly neighborhood indie developers. Jamie Halmick: It&rsquo;s an absurdly large cut for the level of support they give devs given the amount of profit they make on it. 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