{"id":18665,"date":"2017-08-18T14:19:13","date_gmt":"2017-08-18T18:19:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/?p=18665"},"modified":"2017-08-28T15:54:25","modified_gmt":"2017-08-28T19:54:25","slug":"gab-app-rejected-by-google-and-apple","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mjtsai.com\/blog\/2017\/08\/18\/gab-app-rejected-by-google-and-apple\/","title":{"rendered":"Gab App Rejected by Google (and Apple)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/tech-policy\/2017\/08\/gab-the-right-wing-twitter-rival-just-got-its-app-banned-by-google\/\">Timothy B. Lee<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/tech-policy\/2017\/08\/gab-the-right-wing-twitter-rival-just-got-its-app-banned-by-google\/\"><p>On Thursday, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/getongab\/status\/898314927697416192\">Gab said<\/a> that Google had banned its Android app from the Google Play Store for violating Google&rsquo;s ban on hate speech.<\/p><p>Google&rsquo;s e-mail doesn&rsquo;t explain how Gab violated Google&rsquo;s rules, and the company&rsquo;s <a href=\"https:\/\/play.google.com\/about\/restricted-content\/hate-speech\/\">policy on the topic<\/a> isn&rsquo;t very specific. It says only that &ldquo;We don&rsquo;t allow apps that advocate against groups of people based on their race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, nationality, veteran status, sexual orientation, or gender identity.&rdquo;<\/p><p>[&#8230;]<\/p><p>Google is following in Apple&rsquo;s footsteps here. Apple has long had more restrictive app store policies, and it originally <a href=\"http:\/\/www.breitbart.com\/tech\/2016\/12\/17\/apple-rejects-gab-from-app-store-over-content-posted-by-users\/\">rejected the Gab app<\/a> for allowing pornographic content to be posted on the service&mdash;despite the fact that hardcore pornography is readily available on Twitter. In a second rejection, Apple <a href=\"http:\/\/www.breitbart.com\/tech\/2017\/01\/22\/apple-app-store-rejects-free-speech-twitter-alternative-gab\/\">faulted the app<\/a> for containing content that was &ldquo;defamatory or mean-spirited&rdquo;&mdash;Apple&rsquo;s version of the hate speech rule.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>My understanding is that Gab is a social network\/platform, with all the content\/speech\/advocacy generated by users. So these rejections don&rsquo;t make much sense to me. I don&rsquo;t think an app developer should be held responsible for the content of messages that the app&rsquo;s users send to one another.<\/p>\n<p>And look at the larger context of apps that are approved. Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc. have <em>policies<\/em> to restrict certain kinds of content, but <em>in practice<\/em> all manner of violations and abuse still occur. Those apps are not in any danger of being rejected. How are they different from Gab, or Micro.blog, other than being too big to ban?<\/p>\n<p>There are also Web browser, e-mail, RSS, and podcast apps that provide access to totally unfiltered content&mdash;including from Gab&rsquo;s site. And there are secure messaging apps that only transmit opaque encrypted content.<\/p>\n<p>Banning apps based on user content seems to only inconvenience users without really protecting them, anyway.<\/p>\n\n<p>Update (2017-08-18): <a href=\"https:\/\/yro.slashdot.org\/story\/17\/08\/18\/2021220\/google-explains-why-it-banned-the-app-for-gab-a-right-wing-twitter-rival\">Google clarified<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/yro.slashdot.org\/story\/17\/08\/18\/2021220\/google-explains-why-it-banned-the-app-for-gab-a-right-wing-twitter-rival\"><p>In an email to Ars, Google explained its decision to remove Gab from the Play Store: &ldquo;In order to be on the Play Store, social networking apps need to demonstrate a sufficient level of moderation, including for content that encourages violence and advocates hate against groups of people. This is a long-standing rule and clearly stated in our developer policies.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/developer.apple.com\/app-store\/review\/guidelines\/\">Apple&rsquo;s guidelines<\/a> say:<\/p><blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/developer.apple.com\/app-store\/review\/guidelines\/\"><p>Apps with user-generated content present particular challenges, ranging from intellectual property infringement to anonymous bullying. To prevent abuse, apps with user-generated content or social networking services must include:<\/p><ul><li>A method for filtering objectionable material from being posted to the app<\/li><li>A mechanism to report offensive content and timely responses to concerns<\/li><li>The ability to block abusive users from the service<\/li><li>Published contact information so users can easily reach you<\/li><\/ul><p>Apps with user-generated content or services that end up being used primarily for pornographic content, objectification of real people (e.g. &ldquo;hot-or-not&rdquo; voting), making physical threats, or bullying do not belong on the App Store and may be removed without notice. If your app includes user-generated content from a web-based service, it may display incidental mature &ldquo;NSFW&rdquo; content, provided that the content is hidden by default and only displayed when the user turns it on via your website.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/The_Donald\/comments\/5qohrc\/how_many_of_you_know_that_gabai_has_had_a_viable\/\">App Review<\/a> listed some additional requirements:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/The_Donald\/comments\/5qohrc\/how_many_of_you_know_that_gabai_has_had_a_viable\/\"><p>[We] require that you act on objectionable content reports within 24 hours by removing the content and ejecting the user who provide the offending content.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>This is rather vague. Who determines what&rsquo;s objectionable? How many reports do you need to get before ejecting the user? How does Apple determine whether you are getting reports or acting on them? Obviously, there is lots of objectionable content on other social networks that remains for more than 24 hours.<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/@anorganicbear\/is-apple-anti-racist-or-anti-competitive-4232090c7905\">Phil Schiller<\/a> says:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/@anorganicbear\/is-apple-anti-racist-or-anti-competitive-4232090c7905\"><p>&ldquo;The App Store does not review or reject apps for political views. The App Store will not distribute apps designed to promote racism, pornography, or hatred.&rdquo;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>I&rsquo;m not sure what &ldquo;designed to promote&rdquo; means here, since those things seem to be prohibited by <a href=\"https:\/\/gab.ai\/about\/guidelines\">Gab&rsquo;s guidelines<\/a>, which are not as different from <a href=\"https:\/\/support.twitter.com\/articles\/18311?lang=en\">Twitter&rsquo;s<\/a> as I expected.<\/p>\n\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/gab.ai\/about\/guidelines\"><p>Gab&rsquo;s mission is to put people and free speech first. We believe that the only valid form of censorship is an individual&rsquo;s own choice to opt-out. Gab empowers users to filter and remove unwanted followers, words, phrases, and topics they do not want to see in their feeds. However, we do take steps to protect ourselves and our users from illegal activity, spam, and abuse.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Users are prohibited from calling for the acts of violence against others, promoting or engaging in self-harm, and\/or acts of cruelty, threatening language or behaviour that clearly, directly and incontrovertibly infringes on the safety of another user or individual(s).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/@getongab\/apples-double-standards-against-gab-1bffa2c09115\">Gab said in January<\/a> that they try to enforce the guidelines but that it&rsquo;s physically impossible to act within 24 hours or to know about violations that users don&rsquo;t flag.<\/p>\n\n<p>However, a little later <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/The_Donald\/comments\/5qohrc\/how_many_of_you_know_that_gabai_has_had_a_viable\/\">Andrew Torba<\/a> seemed to change their stance:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/The_Donald\/comments\/5qohrc\/how_many_of_you_know_that_gabai_has_had_a_viable\/\"><p>We refuse to &ldquo;eject users&rdquo; who post &ldquo;offending content.&rdquo;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p>And that makes Gab clearly in violation of Apple&rsquo;s (unwritten) rules.<\/p>\n\n<p>Update (2017-08-28): <a href=\"http:\/\/marginalrevolution.com\/marginalrevolution\/2017\/08\/mind-the-gab.html\">Alex Tabarrok<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"http:\/\/marginalrevolution.com\/marginalrevolution\/2017\/08\/mind-the-gab.html\">\n<p>I also fear that Google and Apple haven&rsquo;t thought very far down the game tree. One of the arguments for leaving the meta-platforms alone is that they are facially neutral with respect to content. But if Google and Apple are explicitly exercising their power over speech on moral and political grounds then they open themselves up to regulation. If code is law then don&rsquo;t be surprised when the legislators demand to write the code.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Timothy B. Lee: On Thursday, Gab said that Google had banned its Android app from the Google Play Store for violating Google&rsquo;s ban on hate speech.Google&rsquo;s e-mail doesn&rsquo;t explain how Gab violated Google&rsquo;s rules, and the company&rsquo;s policy on the topic isn&rsquo;t very specific. 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