Comments on: Old Meets New http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/ Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:01:58 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: chris http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/comment-page-1/#comment-431742 chris Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:56:52 +0000 http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/#comment-431742 Apparently it is no longer "created on a Mac using Adobe FrameMaker 6". It seems it is now created using "Adobe InDesign CS3 (5.0.3)". Apparently it is no longer "created on a Mac using Adobe FrameMaker 6". It seems it is now created using "Adobe InDesign CS3 (5.0.3)".

]]> By: Oliver http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/comment-page-1/#comment-410110 Oliver Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:02:11 +0000 http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/#comment-410110 Another hint what's going on at Apple's technical documentation could be found in newer docs: "PDF-Author: XEP 4.9 build 20070115"... Perhaps they switched to some sort of XML-Tool like Oxygen/Docbench and now use XSLT/FO to get the PDFs and so on. For me Pages is the most potential successor of Frame, but it currently lacks in holding the documents in a central repository. and to do real cross media publishing. It's much easier to do this with simple xml files. Another hint what's going on at Apple's technical documentation could be found in newer docs: "PDF-Author: XEP 4.9 build 20070115"... Perhaps they switched to some sort of XML-Tool like Oxygen/Docbench and now use XSLT/FO to get the PDFs and so on.

For me Pages is the most potential successor of Frame, but it currently lacks in holding the documents in a central repository. and to do real cross media publishing. It's much easier to do this with simple xml files.

]]> By: Semper Fi, Mac! http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/comment-page-1/#comment-320476 Semper Fi, Mac! Sun, 08 Jun 2008 01:35:01 +0000 http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/#comment-320476 ricercar~ I have FrameMaker 7.0, and it runs swimmingly on my seven-year-old PowerPC PowerMac running OS X 10.3.9 (which I didn't upgrade to Tiger or Leopard because that machine doesn't have a DVD drive). Anyway, I recently bought a new iMac, but I'm hanging on to the PowerMac simply because of its ability to run Classic programs such as FrameMaker. And FrameMaker runs fast in a meager 640MB of RAM, without breaking a sweat. FrameMaker is an amazing workhorse. I recently used it to write a 70,000-word novel. FrameMaker gobbled it up without complaint. It's a shame Adobe abandoned FrameMaker -- largely, I suspect, because of a well-known Silicon Valley disease called NIH ("Not Invented Here"), which in this case refers to FrameMaker's pedigree of having been created by Frame Technology in the mid-1980s but bought by Adobe in 1995 for $300 million. From the get-go, because FrameMaker wasn't Adobe's creation, Adobe always treated their acquisition as a poor relative. That doomed it the minute Adobe acquired it. ~Semper Fi, Mac! ricercar~

I have FrameMaker 7.0, and it runs swimmingly on my seven-year-old PowerPC PowerMac running OS X 10.3.9 (which I didn't upgrade to Tiger or Leopard because that machine doesn't have a DVD drive).

Anyway, I recently bought a new iMac, but I'm hanging on to the PowerMac simply because of its ability to run Classic programs such as FrameMaker. And FrameMaker runs fast in a meager 640MB of RAM, without breaking a sweat. FrameMaker is an amazing workhorse. I recently used it to write a 70,000-word novel. FrameMaker gobbled it up without complaint.

It's a shame Adobe abandoned FrameMaker -- largely, I suspect, because of a well-known Silicon Valley disease called NIH ("Not Invented Here"), which in this case refers to FrameMaker's pedigree of having been created by Frame Technology in the mid-1980s but bought by Adobe in 1995 for $300 million. From the get-go, because FrameMaker wasn't Adobe's creation, Adobe always treated their acquisition as a poor relative. That doomed it the minute Adobe acquired it.

~Semper Fi, Mac!

]]> By: xml_guy http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/comment-page-1/#comment-319101 xml_guy Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:54:01 +0000 http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/#comment-319101 I'm using a free/open-source alternative, which may appeal to the geeks amongst you. Recently I've used DocBook as the XML document format for my documentation. The editor I use is XMLmind (free). The document is then processed using Apache FOP (free) to produce a PDF file, and can be customised using XSL stylesheets. The same XML file can also be processed using xsltproc (part of OS X 10.4) to produce HTML documents (single page or multipage) which can be shipped with a .css file to control formatting in the browser. The DocBook XSL stylesheets control the HTML and PDF formatting and are also free. A makefile is used to automate the creation of the output files. DocBook supports TOC, indicies, glossary, figures, etc. so is worth checking out. I'm using a free/open-source alternative, which may appeal to the geeks amongst you.

Recently I've used DocBook as the XML document format for my documentation. The editor I use is XMLmind (free). The document is then processed using Apache FOP (free) to produce a PDF file, and can be customised using XSL stylesheets. The same XML file can also be processed using xsltproc (part of OS X 10.4) to produce HTML documents (single page or multipage) which can be shipped with a .css file to control formatting in the browser. The DocBook XSL stylesheets control the HTML and PDF formatting and are also free. A makefile is used to automate the creation of the output files.

DocBook supports TOC, indicies, glossary, figures, etc. so is worth checking out.

]]> By: ricercar http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/comment-page-1/#comment-318018 ricercar Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:57:33 +0000 http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/#comment-318018 Webrumor suggests that FrameMaker 7 for MacOSX has support for 10.1 and 10.2, but not 10.3. Can someone confirm or correct this, please? # System Requirements: # OS Required Apple MacOS 9.0, Apple MacOS 9.1, Apple MacOS 9.2, Apple MacOS X 10.1 (WILL NOT WORK ON OSX 10.3) # Min RAM Size 128 MB # Min Hard Drive Space 180 MB Webrumor suggests that FrameMaker 7 for MacOSX has support for 10.1 and 10.2, but not 10.3. Can someone confirm or correct this, please?

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System Requirements:
# OS Required Apple MacOS 9.0, Apple MacOS 9.1, Apple MacOS 9.2, Apple MacOS X 10.1 (WILL NOT WORK ON OSX 10.3)
# Min RAM Size 128 MB
# Min Hard Drive Space 180 MB

]]> By: Per T http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/comment-page-1/#comment-317667 Per T Wed, 04 Jun 2008 10:15:49 +0000 http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/#comment-317667 Why not use XSL-FO? Why not use XSL-FO?

]]> By: Michael Llaneza http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/comment-page-1/#comment-317464 Michael Llaneza Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:56:11 +0000 http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/#comment-317464 Here's a beautiful thought. The pro version of Pages is Volumes; it's feature comparable with Framemaker and it's just a latex front end. How cool would that be ? Here's a beautiful thought. The pro version of Pages is Volumes; it's feature comparable with Framemaker and it's just a latex front end. How cool would that be ?

]]> By: Robert Scott http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/comment-page-1/#comment-317241 Robert Scott Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:41:48 +0000 http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/#comment-317241 Possible fixes for the Sheepshaver cursor handling problem can be found here: http://emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5093&start=25&sid=012e84be178523b44a3d2664e10e0b8c Possible fixes for the Sheepshaver cursor handling problem can be found here:

http://emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5093&start=25&sid=012e84be178523b44a3d2664e10e0b8c

]]> By: David http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/comment-page-1/#comment-317163 David Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:32:23 +0000 http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/#comment-317163 What about using latex? It's infinitely customizable and does a fantastic job on long documents. Of course it doesn't have GUI, but on the plus side it is free. (Worked incredibly well for a 180 page document I put together recently.) What about using latex? It's infinitely customizable and does a fantastic job on long documents. Of course it doesn't have GUI, but on the plus side it is free. (Worked incredibly well for a 180 page document I put together recently.)

]]> By: Jeff Self http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/comment-page-1/#comment-317153 Jeff Self Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:17:42 +0000 http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/07/01/old-meets-new/#comment-317153 FrameMaker had a version that supported SGML which was the defacto markup language for technical documentation. It has since been superseded by its child, XML. FrameMaker had a version that supported SGML which was the defacto markup language for technical documentation. It has since been superseded by its child, XML.

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