Comments on: Apple and Java http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/01/21/apple-and-java/ Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:00:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: LKM http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/01/21/apple-and-java/#comment-34538 LKM Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:37:05 +0000 http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/01/21/apple-and-java/#comment-34538 Java has "pixel-perfect" layouts, too. It even has visual layout designers, although none are as nice as Interface Builder. I don't really understand the criticism - Java provides Layout Managers in addition to hand-crafted layouts, not to replace them. Java has "pixel-perfect" layouts, too. It even has visual layout designers, although none are as nice as Interface Builder. I don't really understand the criticism - Java provides Layout Managers in addition to hand-crafted layouts, not to replace them.

]]> By: Michael http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/01/21/apple-and-java/#comment-33968 Michael Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:41:25 +0000 http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/01/21/apple-and-java/#comment-33968 Scott: I'm not saying that computers should choose the design/layout, just that there's a lot of tedious stuff that could be automated. Interface Builder has guides and such, but there's no intelligence to it; once you set down an object it remembers the origin and size, but not that it's supposed to be a certain distance from a neighboring object or that it's centered with respect to some other group of objects. So when you adjust the layout manually, IB can't provide much help. And when you move/resize views at runtime, the framework can't provide much help--you end up having to write uglier interface maintenance code than in Java. Scott: I'm not saying that computers should choose the design/layout, just that there's a lot of tedious stuff that could be automated. Interface Builder has guides and such, but there's no intelligence to it; once you set down an object it remembers the origin and size, but not that it's supposed to be a certain distance from a neighboring object or that it's centered with respect to some other group of objects. So when you adjust the layout manually, IB can't provide much help. And when you move/resize views at runtime, the framework can't provide much help--you end up having to write uglier interface maintenance code than in Java.

]]> By: Scott Stevenson http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/01/21/apple-and-java/#comment-33945 Scott Stevenson Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:13:42 +0000 http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/01/21/apple-and-java/#comment-33945 I personally don't think computers should do user interface layout for humans. :) I personally don't think computers should do user interface layout for humans. :)

]]> By: rentzsch http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/01/21/apple-and-java/#comment-33908 rentzsch Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:45:34 +0000 http://mjtsai.com/blog/2007/01/21/apple-and-java/#comment-33908 Layout managers: gotta save /something/ for 10.6 :-) Check out http://www.gnustep.it/Renaissance/ for a taste today. Layout managers: gotta save /something/ for 10.6 :-)

Check out http://www.gnustep.it/Renaissance/ for a taste today.

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