Comments on: Adobe’s Graveyard http://mjtsai.com/blog/2004/01/05/adobes_graveyard/ Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:17:19 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Chris http://mjtsai.com/blog/2004/01/05/adobes_graveyard/comment-page-1/#comment-8085 Chris Thu, 28 Apr 2005 03:30:10 +0000 /?p=745#comment-8085 Late followup: don't forget that Adobe killed SuperPaint. Late followup: don't forget that Adobe killed SuperPaint.

]]> By: peter boardman http://mjtsai.com/blog/2004/01/05/adobes_graveyard/comment-page-1/#comment-575 peter boardman Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=745#comment-575 Yes, it looks like FrameMaker is moribund. Since I make some of my living with it - and have no intention of re-locating to Windows - I have mixed feelings about this... It does seem odd for Adobe to leave FrameMaker on Mac to die, just as Macs have started moving into new markets with their Unix solidity and just as corporate users are increasingly looking for alternatives to Windows! Yes, it looks like FrameMaker is moribund. Since I make some of my living with it - and have no intention of re-locating to Windows - I have mixed feelings about this...

It does seem odd for Adobe to leave FrameMaker on Mac to die, just as Macs have started moving into new markets with their Unix solidity and just as corporate users are increasingly looking for alternatives to Windows!

]]> By: Nat Irons http://mjtsai.com/blog/2004/01/05/adobes_graveyard/comment-page-1/#comment-576 Nat Irons Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=745#comment-576 PDF copies of MDJ/MWJ are made with InDesign on a Mac. They include clickable links, both intra-document and HTTP. Are there PDF features than InDesign can't accomodate? PDF copies of MDJ/MWJ are made with InDesign on a Mac. They include clickable links, both intra-document and HTTP. Are there PDF features than InDesign can't accomodate?

]]> By: Michael http://mjtsai.com/blog/2004/01/05/adobes_graveyard/comment-page-1/#comment-577 Michael Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=745#comment-577 Not that I know of; in fact, InDesign probably makes better PDFs than FrameMaker. So, yes it's possible to create good PDFs from a Mac OS X-native app. But, unless things have drastically changed with InDesign CS (I haven't tried it since 2.0, and I don't see a CS demo), it doesn't really target FrameMaker users. It looks like each version adds more of FrameMaker's structure and long-document features, but that it still has a ways to go. And, from what I can tell, you still need third-party plug-ins to do footnotes and equations, and even then they aren't as well integrated as with FrameMaker. Not that I know of; in fact, InDesign probably makes better PDFs than FrameMaker. So, yes it's possible to create good PDFs from a Mac OS X-native app.

But, unless things have drastically changed with InDesign CS (I haven't tried it since 2.0, and I don't see a CS demo), it doesn't really target FrameMaker users. It looks like each version adds more of FrameMaker's structure and long-document features, but that it still has a ways to go. And, from what I can tell, you still need third-party plug-ins to do footnotes and equations, and even then they aren't as well integrated as with FrameMaker.

]]> By: Christian Bogen http://mjtsai.com/blog/2004/01/05/adobes_graveyard/comment-page-1/#comment-578 Christian Bogen Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=745#comment-578 ... plus AFAIK InDesign lacks FrameMaker's SGML interface and I doubt that it will get it anytime soon. ... plus AFAIK InDesign lacks FrameMaker's SGML interface and I doubt that it will get it anytime soon.

]]> By: Michael http://mjtsai.com/blog/2004/01/05/adobes_graveyard/comment-page-1/#comment-579 Michael Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=745#comment-579 I was lumping that into the "structure" category. :-) I was lumping that into the "structure" category. :-)

]]> By: Brad http://mjtsai.com/blog/2004/01/05/adobes_graveyard/comment-page-1/#comment-580 Brad Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=745#comment-580 FrameMaker has made quite a few improvements with 7.1 but in comparison with the upgrades in InDesign CS they are mild. Adobe is definitely working on making InDesign the hottest item. Evidence the Adobe homepage for several weeks. FrameMaker has made quite a few improvements with 7.1 but in comparison with the upgrades in InDesign CS they are mild. Adobe is definitely working on making InDesign the hottest item. Evidence the Adobe homepage for several weeks.

]]> By: Michael http://mjtsai.com/blog/2004/01/05/adobes_graveyard/comment-page-1/#comment-581 Michael Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=745#comment-581 Adobe has now posted the <a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/tryadobe/main.jsp#product=31">InDesign CS</a> tryout. Adobe has now posted the InDesign CS tryout.

]]> By: Michael http://mjtsai.com/blog/2004/01/05/adobes_graveyard/comment-page-1/#comment-582 Michael Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=745#comment-582 <a href="http://macminute.com/2004/03/23/framemaker">MacMinute</a> says that FrameMaker for Mac will be discontinued on April 21. MacMinute says that FrameMaker for Mac will be discontinued on April 21.

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