Comments on: Fonts in iCab and Safari http://mjtsai.com/blog/2003/03/16/fonts_in_icab_and_safari/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:54:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: MM962 http://mjtsai.com/blog/2003/03/16/fonts_in_icab_and_safari/#comment-72770 MM962 Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:11:24 +0000 /?p=298#comment-72770 Here's what I would do: - not use old fonts not meant to be rendered with CoreGraphics (as you've described about Geneva vs Lucida Grande) - don't use 9pt and expect it to be readable, AA or not. - use subpixel-antialiasing the first two are UI design guidelines that I think are pretty obvious; the last is a technological solution that helps in the case where people don't follow the first two guidelines. Here's what I would do:

- not use old fonts not meant to be rendered with CoreGraphics (as you've described about Geneva vs Lucida Grande)
- don't use 9pt and expect it to be readable, AA or not.
- use subpixel-antialiasing

the first two are UI design guidelines that I think are pretty obvious; the last is a technological solution that helps in the case where people don't follow the first two guidelines.

]]> By: Zack Glennie http://mjtsai.com/blog/2003/03/16/fonts_in_icab_and_safari/#comment-65847 Zack Glennie Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:41:47 +0000 /?p=298#comment-65847 Newer monitors are shipping lower and lower pixel densities, in fact. Modern 19" LCDs have less resolution than my so-old-it's-beige 17" CRT. Stop complaining about your vision and start using a browser that lets you resize fonts conveniently without breaking page layouts. Opera is pretty good for this. Newer monitors are shipping lower and lower pixel densities, in fact. Modern 19" LCDs have less resolution than my so-old-it's-beige 17" CRT.

Stop complaining about your vision and start using a browser that lets you resize fonts conveniently without breaking page layouts. Opera is pretty good for this.

]]> By: Erik J. Barzeski http://mjtsai.com/blog/2003/03/16/fonts_in_icab_and_safari/#comment-178 Erik J. Barzeski Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 /?p=298#comment-178 Safari looks fine - and much much BIGGER - to me. Your font sizes are goofy. Safari looks fine - and much much BIGGER - to me. Your font sizes are goofy.

]]> By: Michael http://mjtsai.com/blog/2003/03/16/fonts_in_icab_and_safari/#comment-179 Michael Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 /?p=298#comment-179 I prefer a smaller font so I can see more. I prefer a smaller font so I can see more.

]]> By: pb http://mjtsai.com/blog/2003/03/16/fonts_in_icab_and_safari/#comment-180 pb Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 /?p=298#comment-180 The Safari examples are so much, much better looking. I say this even though I, too, prefer smaller font sizes. The Safari examples are so much, much better looking. I say this even though I, too, prefer smaller font sizes.

]]> By: Ken http://mjtsai.com/blog/2003/03/16/fonts_in_icab_and_safari/#comment-181 Ken Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 /?p=298#comment-181 I simply cannot stand font smoothing and until this can be turned completely off in OS X and Safari, I'm staying in OS 9. This fuzzy type is a joke. I simply cannot stand font smoothing and until this can be turned completely off in OS X and Safari, I'm staying in OS 9. This fuzzy type is a joke.

]]> By: iSee http://mjtsai.com/blog/2003/03/16/fonts_in_icab_and_safari/#comment-182 iSee Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 /?p=298#comment-182 I'd suggest the following experiment: Launch Terminal, type 'pico' and paste some text into the terminal window. Then open Window Settings, choose Display from the PopUp menu and set the font to really small Monaco (4,5 or 6 pt.) Now turn anti-aliasing on and off, and check which version is more legible. Greetings, iSee I'd suggest the following experiment: Launch Terminal, type 'pico' and paste some text into the terminal window. Then open Window Settings, choose Display from the PopUp menu and set the font to really small Monaco (4,5 or 6 pt.) Now turn anti-aliasing on and off, and check which version is more legible.

Greetings, iSee

]]> By: Jer http://mjtsai.com/blog/2003/03/16/fonts_in_icab_and_safari/#comment-183 Jer Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 /?p=298#comment-183 Who uses 4 point monaco when they want something legible? That's the stupidest experiment ever. Go away. Who uses 4 point monaco when they want something legible? That's the stupidest experiment ever. Go away.

]]> By: Charles http://mjtsai.com/blog/2003/03/16/fonts_in_icab_and_safari/#comment-184 Charles Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 /?p=298#comment-184 I suddenly realise that Safari looks dire. It's because I've rarely compared it. I too want to be able to turn font smoothing OFF all over X. It's bugged me since the Public Beta and it STILL bugs me. It makes you think you need glasses, when all you need is for the OS to get the hell out of the way. I suddenly realise that Safari looks dire. It's because I've rarely compared it. I too want to be able to turn font smoothing OFF all over X. It's bugged me since the Public Beta and it STILL bugs me.

It makes you think you need glasses, when all you need is for the OS to get the hell out of the way.

]]> By: MacBuddy http://mjtsai.com/blog/2003/03/16/fonts_in_icab_and_safari/#comment-185 MacBuddy Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 /?p=298#comment-185 Some folks have difficulty with AAing in fonts. Maybe due to our eyes. Astigmatisms may be the culprit. ?? It would be great if we the user had the option to make adjustments to our needs. Some folks have difficulty with AAing in fonts. Maybe due to our eyes. Astigmatisms may be the culprit. ??

It would be great if we the user had the option to make adjustments to our needs.

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